Problem: Some shortcuts are superfluous, others are missing
français: Certains raccourcis sont superflus, d'autres absents
Who would benefit: facilitate editing for new writers
français: faciliter l'édition pour les nouveaux rédacteurs
Proposed solution: Rearrange the toolbar a bit
français: Réorganiser un peu la barre outils
More comments: In the toolbar, we have {{}},{{|}}, {{|}}. I think keep {{}} and replace the other two useless it goes as fast to type | on the keyboard at the desired place. Instead we could put {{paragraph|}}, {{space|}}, {{separation}}, <ref>txt</ref> duplicates the icon next to (insert file) at the top left. It could be replaced by <ref follow=pxxx>. Next to <br/> we could add <brn|> and {{br0}}. The <search-replace> could appear next to the pencil dropdown at the top-right.
français: Dans la barre, nous avons {{}},{{|}}, {{|}}. Je pense garder {{}} et remplacer les 2 autres pour moi inutiles ça va aussi vite de taper au clavier le | à l'endroit voulu. A la place on pourrait y mettre {{alinéa|}}, {{espace|}}, {{separation}} <ref>txt</ref> fait double emploi avec l'icone à côté (inserer fichier) en haut à gauche. On pourrait le remplacer par <ref follow=pxxx>. A côté de <br/>, on pourrait rajouter <brn|> et {{br0}}. Le <rechercher-remplacer> pourrait figurer à côté du crayon changer d'éditeur.
I think you mean the Character insertion bar below the editor ? That can already be modified by the community itself, it does not require effort by the development team. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
we need a redesign of default menus for wikisource. this is beyond the capabilities of the new editor. visual editor will not be used until this is done, either by community or developers. Slowking4 (talk) 15:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Oppose" expending Wishlist resources on this. This can be fixed by the local project, and is something that should be handled by the local project. For example, the set of relevant templates and things like style guides for (curly) quote marks etc. are going to vary from project to project. Perhaps if there was something not possible with the current toolbar it might make sense to add that support, but then just to enable local customization. --Xover (talk) 12:16, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]