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Disable simple one-click rollback, force reason field filling

Disable simple one-click rollback. Force to fill a rollback reason field. Vote for edits. Develop techniques to detect vandalism and distinguish it from useful posts which are unpleasant to despotic article author. Develop techniques to encourage people to edit rather than roll back.

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created on18:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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What is the problem you're trying to solve?

I want to solve a problem when time demanding and potentially useful edits are rolled back easily with a single mouse click instead of spending time to improve these edits. I would like to make rollbacker's life a bit more complicated. I would like to encourage people to WORK. Easiness encourages laziness and creates problems.

But I am afraid of fully centralized approval committee. This is the other extreme.

What is your solution?

• To detect in some way whether the idea is necessary before it gets to the page, with inability to bypass this mechanism
• To make edits less dumbass-dependent. Under dumbass I mean a person who has plenty of time to turn useful but personally unpleasant edits down

How? I do not know yet. May be voting?

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• Rollback is required against vandalism, but the rollbacks should be traced and analized. An automatic report should be generated when users rollback or being rolled back often or frequently. Also check on silent rollbacks by editing an older version and saving it. --Hans Haase (talk) 10:51, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

• Rolback is already restricted to vandalism and some closely related situations on English Wikipedia per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Rollback#When_to_use_rollback. If rollback privileges are being used to harass new editors or are otherwise being abused on English Wikipedia, such incidents should be reported. If other Wikipedias lack similar restrictions, they ought to be harmonized with English Wikipedia's restrictions.--ArnoldReinhold (talk) 19:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Endorsements

• Good idea. I went to some effort to disable one-click rollback just for myself because there is no reason I would ever use it, and accidentally tapping it on a mobile device is disasterous. The only time I deliberately pressed it was when I got it confused with "undo" (which does allow adding a reason). At the very least users and admins should have to opt-in to this functionality and it should not be encouraged and should not show up by default for anybody. Pengo (talk) 23:53, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
• Explain to people what happening reduce the edit wars Webysther (talk) 21:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
• Rollbacks should be limited to vandalism. Luckz (talk) 12:25, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
• Limit rollbacks to vandalism. Arianit (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• "Explain to people what happening reduce the edit wars". Webysther, maybe: false or incorrect explanations light up edit wars. But explaining it is already a first step to limit arbitrary rollback. I also think is necessary Harassment from Sysop must be treated by experts, not by sysop, or Harassment must be treated by experts, not by anyone. Luca Polpettini (talk) 14:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Wrote on the talk page; Grants talk:IdeaLab/Disable simple one-click rollback, force reason field filling#Default generated by a classifier. The idea is to let a classifier turn on the one-click rollback if it believes it is a vandalism, for all other contributions you must write a summary. — Jeblad 15:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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