Grants talk:IEG/Backlog pages for all WikiProjects

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Article ratings?

The proposal mentions prioritization. Since many WikiProject templates use importance and class ratings to assess article priorities, will this information be factored into the resulting backlog reports? That is, will I be able to view lists that have been filtered for specific WikiProject categories of importance and/or class ratings? Thank you. Praemonitus (talk) 15:31, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. Since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_backlog only counts cleanup templates, that is the only intent of this project.

On a side note, you might be interested in seeing the new version of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:5000 that I've helped generate ideas for. It shows page views, ratings, etc. Related discussion on popular page reports for WikiProjects has been mentioned here and here, FYI. There seems to be some concern over the future of the Toolserver for these valuable popular page reports. I happen to use this one and it has helped to prioritize goals (see here and here, FWIW). I currently really want a popular page report established for WikiProject Anatomy... but I'm not sure when this will happen, unfortunately. Biosthmors (talk) 17:40, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Task_force_assessment , just in case you weren't aware of how to generate the kind of table seen there. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 17:44, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the responses. Praemonitus (talk) 22:13, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Budget

Hi! I'm a bit confused on your budget - who would be paid the $1000 for contract coding? Do you have a co-participant for this project that we should consider a prospective grantee as well as yourself, or is your idea to use the funding to hire a contractor to build something after the prototype? If you're hiring someone external, do you have a plan for where you would find that person? One of the eligibility criteria for IEGrants is ability to complete the project by the project team members, without the use of WMF staff, and while hiring professionals to supplement the skills you bring as project leader would be acceptable, it is probably not preferable to having an assembled team of grantees who can complete the work. So, I'm curious to know what exactly you had in mind. Thanks! Siko (WMF) (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Great questions! The idea is to "use the funding to hire a contractor to build something after the prototype" if volunteer labor can not be found. I plan to bug people here and here, for example. (The WikiHow model is really what I want each WikiProject to have.) If volunteer labor can be found, I'll donate the money back to the WMF, otherwise I'll provide receipts. Do you have any idea if I should ask for more or less? Unfortunately I don't have coding experience, so there isn't a team that can deliver on this yet. I'm asking for the grant to help a team form, if need be. Biosthmors (talk) 19:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

And I've clarified this on the proposal. Biosthmors (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense. Because you don't yet have a prototype, or any grantee team members who can do the work needed to complete the grant yet, this still seems like it might be a stretch to fund during this round. Technically, from what you've said it sounds like you are eligible and I'll be marking your proposal as under review. But what I strongly suggest you do is not rush this idea to funding right away. If what you're looking for is a team and further clarity on how to complete your project, you might consider withdrawing from review in this round to spend some more time workshopping the idea in the Grants:IdeaLab, looking for other participants to join you, finishing the prototype, etc, and then apply for funding in a future round when you have a somewhat more concrete plan. Or is there something time sensitive that makes it important to have funding right away for this project? Siko (WMF) (talk) 20:26, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Moving over to Grants:IdeaLab and trying to build a team sounds fine by me. Biosthmors (talk) 02:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to move your proposal out of the review list and back to the Lab now. You should find it in the list of drafts and ideas seeking participants there to work on with others, and if you're ready in the next round you can just mark the status to PROPOSED again to submit it for review. Cheers! Siko (WMF) (talk) 19:09, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Availability for other languages

Hi. It is an interesting idea, but I was wondering whether the tool will be designed so it will be available for other Wikipedia languages as well? Thanks. --Haithams (talk) 18:57, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the question I'll keep that in mind. The proposal is more in the idea stages instead of being a viable one (despite being currently marked as under review) and I can't code so I don't think I can comment on that question intelligently. It would, of course, be nice for it to have as wide of an impact as possible! Biosthmors (talk) 05:15, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

It's not about coding, it's about design. As you've notified only en.wiki, of course you won't have any suggestion on how to improve it in this regard. --Nemo 06:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Are you're saying no English speakers with coding experience will know how to design it for other languages? Biosthmors (talk) 20:41, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

No, I'm saying you're not considering other stakeholders. --Nemo 14:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

"all" abuse

I suggest to drop "all" from the title, given that it's stated to be for en.wiki only. --Nemo 14:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)