Grants talk:Programs/Wikimedia Community Fund/Rapid Fund/透過口述歷史與料理傳承台語及文化 (ID: 22978270)

Additional questions for your application

Hello @Vickylin77amis,

Thank you for your application. Your application is being reviewed by the ESEAP Regional Funds Committee and Programme Officer, with inputs from Wikimedia Taiwan. Here are some questions that we require more information and a comment/ recommendation.

Thank you for taking a moment to respond.

Regards, Jacqueline

-- Hi!! Jacquelin JChen (WMF) Regarding the five questions and suggestions you mentioned, our responses are as follows. If there is anything unclear in our explanations, please feel free to let us know. Thank you. Best, Vicky

1) Do you have a timeline for your project? This will help us match the activities to when you expect it to happen during the course of your project.

4月：召開期初工作會議，討論規劃訪談、古蹟踏查與攝影活動等相關事宜。

5月：舉辦 2 小時的維基媒體技術教學與實作課程，並辦理寫作聚會。同時展開食譜採集與前置作業。

6月：進行訪談，並發布一篇有聲食譜。

7月：舉辦 2 小時的維基媒體技術教學與實作課程，並辦理寫作聚會。持續進行食譜採集與前置工作。

8月：進行訪談，舉辦古蹟踏查與攝影活動，並查閱近三年「維基愛古蹟」活動資料。

9月：發布一篇有聲食譜，召開期末工作會議，撰寫期末報告。

（10月）：預計於計畫結束後，參與「維基愛古蹟活動」。

April: Held the kickoff meeting to plan interviews, heritage site visits, and photography activities.

May: Conducted a 2-hour Wikimedia technical training and hands-on session, and organized a writing meetup. Began recipe collection and preliminary preparations.

June: Carried out interviews and published one audio recipe.

July: Conducted another 2-hour Wikimedia technical training and writing meetup. Continued recipe collection and preparatory work.

August: Conducted interviews, held a heritage site visit and photography event, and reviewed the past three years of "Wiki Loves Monuments" activities.

September: Published one audio recipe, held the final project meeting, and wrote the end-of-project report.

(October): Planned to participate in "Wiki Loves Monuments" after the project concludes.

2) Could you provide more clarity on the purpose and significance of the two Wikibooks contributions and what you hope to achieve through this? Would it be to create new books, expand existing content, or translate important educational materials? And is there a reason why you are only targeting two books? Is it due to the complexity of the content, a focus on quality over quantity, or resource limitations? Providing this explanation will help reviewers understand the value of the Wikibooks contributions and how they fit into the broader project goals.

關於 Wikibooks 的部分，我們認為有必要加以說明。目前，nan語版 Wikibooks 仍處於 Wikimedia Incubator的孵育階段，尚未正式成站，我們的計畫貢獻目標為 Incubator 中的 wb/nan 專案。在 wb/nan 中，目前尚未有「si̍t-phó͘（食譜）」相關內容，因此我們選擇在 Wikibooks 平台上貢獻食譜，是一項全新的嘗試。 台灣的宮廟文化聞名於世，飲食文化也極具特色。我們期望透過食譜，不僅介紹料理，更呈現其文化背景。例如：「ke-chiú（麻油雞）」這道料理，除了常見於寒冷天氣中進補使用，也常在婦女產後坐月子時食用。 我們將以「實作」的方式，透過文字與聲音，完整記錄每一道料理的「材料」、「工具」、「烹飪方式」以及「文化背景」，最終完成「有聲食譜」的內容。 但由於採購食材、備料、實作烹飪、錄音與剪輯等流程相當繁複耗時，因此在本次計畫中，能完成的有聲食譜數量有限。 🔗 參考頁面： https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/nan/Thâu-ia̍h

Regarding Wikibooks, we believe it is important to provide further clarification. Currently, the nan-language version of Wikibooks is still in the Wikimedia Incubator and has not yet been officially launched. Our project contributes to the wb/nan section within the Incubator. At present, there is no existing section for "si̍t-phó͘ (recipes)" under wb/nan, so contributing recipes via Wikibooks is a new and experimental approach for us. Taiwan is known for its rich temple culture, and its cuisine is equally memorable. We aim for the recipes to not only present cooking instructions but also share their cultural significance. For example, "ke-chiú (sesame oil chicken)" is a popular dish during colder months, but it is also traditionally served to postpartum women during their recovery period. We plan to use a hands-on approach, utilizing both text and audio, to document each recipe’s ingredients, tools, cooking methods, and cultural background, with the goal of producing a "spoken recipe" entry. However, due to the time and effort required for purchasing ingredients, preparation, cooking, recording, and editing, we will only be able to complete a limited number of spoken recipes within this project period. 🔗 Reference page: https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/nan/Thâu-ia̍h

3) Could you provide more details of the community consultation and engagement that you have done? Please provide links to documentations where possible. Also, have you secured the commitment of your project team to implement the project? Could you provide links to documentation where possible? We are asking because in your previous project, core members of your implementing team had limited availability to commit to implementation.

去年度的工作內容與維基媒體計畫項目皆相當繁重，在推動過程中，團隊核心成員因個人生涯規劃出現變動，對執行進度產生一定影響。對此，我們已於內部進行討論，決定調整計畫規模，不再執行多語言社群交流等較為擴大的項目，改為聚焦於團隊成員各自擅長的領域進行。 目前主要參與的核心成員包括： vickylin77amis：負責古蹟踏查與訪談活動規劃，以及行政事務處理。 akamycoco：負責「有聲食譜」的研究與製作，並撰寫進度報告。 Iyumu：負責課程規劃與寫作聚會的進行。今年2月他已主動告知，從3月起約半年期間，皆將能參與相關聚會與推廣活動。

Last year’s workload and Wikimedia-related projects were quite extensive. Due to changes in personal career plans among core team members, some impacts were felt in the project execution. After internal discussions, the team decided to scale down the scope of the project, discontinue multilingual community exchange activities, and instead focus on areas where each member has specialized expertise.

The current key contributors are: vickylin77amis: Responsible for planning heritage site visits, interviews, and handling administrative matters. akamycoco: In charge of researching and producing the "spoken recipe" content, as well as writing progress reports. Iyumu: Responsible for planning educational sessions and facilitating writing meetups. He had informed the team in February that she would be available to participate in gatherings and outreach events for about six months starting in March.

4) Having implemented several projects with the Wikimedia Foundation and contributed to different wikiprojects, could you provide a brief summary of the key areas of learning, innovation and contribution to the different projects, so we can understand how your approach has evolved over time?

• Grants:Programs/Wikimedia Community Fund/General Support Fund/Tâi-gí kah to-gí-giân ê WIKI mûi-thé hāng-bo̍k ê thui-kóng kè-ōe
• Grants:Programs/Wikimedia Community Fund/Rapid Fund/Tâi-uân ê kong-biō-bûn-huà wiki tsuan-àn (ID: 21982091)/Final Report
• Grants:Programs/Wikimedia Community Fund/Rapid Fund/台語諺語維基共享資源計畫 (ID: 22894682)

我們於 2023 年首次申請維基媒體個人補助計畫，規劃為期半年的活動，主要聚焦於宮廟文化相關詞彙於 Wiktionary、Wikidata（Lexeme） 的內容補充與更新。其次則辦理課程、寫作聚會、訪談與推廣維基媒體計畫。 2024 年首次申請一般補助，並以「to-gí-giân 多語言」為核心目標，除了延續台語相關貢獻外，我們希望能邀請其他原住民族語言社群共同參與交流與貢獻，嘗試以「多語言參與」的方式推進知識的共享與合作。 該年度我們規劃了一整年的活動：上半年以擺攤推廣、課程教學與訪談為主，下半年則強化社群間的交流與連結。為確保計畫穩定推進，我們定期召開會議，並維持組織日常運作。 我們認為，推廣維基媒體計畫的重點不應侷限於單一語言的貢獻，而應積極促進社群間的互動與合作。「to-gí-giân 多語言」的推廣雖為嶄新嘗試，但具高度實質意義，讓各語言社群能發揮所長，彼此交流運作經驗、解決實務困難。然而，社群的經營與組織的維持是長期工作，難以在短期內全面照顧到所有成員與需求。 此外，計畫推動過程中，我們也面臨 羅馬字書寫的實際挑戰。台灣現行教育環境以中文為主，無論是台語或原住民族語言，羅馬字的書寫與應用在一般使用者中仍不普及，學習門檻高，非短期內可大量產出。因此，我們建議部份成員可專注於語音貢獻作為參與方式之一。 目前，僅有「簡單先生」申請 2025 年度的「台語諺語計畫」，內容包含：自力採集台語諺語、上傳音檔、訪談長者等。我們將以顧問與志工的身份參與，無償協助行政建議、維基媒體技術支援，並協助更新 Commons 上音檔的 File information（包含羅馬字說明）。 我們認為這樣的支援有助於增進 Commons 與 Wiktionary 的應用連結，進一步擴展維基媒體計畫的多元實踐與推廣效益。

In 2023, we applied for a Wikimedia Rapid Fund for the first time, designing a six-month project that focused primarily on enriching temple-related vocabulary entries in Wiktionary and Wikidata Lexemes. In addition, we organized courses, writing meetups, interviews, and general outreach for Wikimedia projects. In 2024, we submitted our first General Support Fund application, centering the project around "to-gí-giân multilingualism." Beyond contributions in Taiwanese, we sought to involve speakers of Indigenous languages to foster exchange and collaboration. We planned a year-long project, with the first half focusing on outreach booths, workshops, and interviews, and the second half dedicated to community interaction and exchange. To ensure steady progress, we held regular team meetings and maintained organizational operations.

We believe that promoting Wikimedia projects should not be limited to a single language, but should instead encourage cross-community collaboration. While "to-gí-giân multilingualism" is an innovative endeavor, it holds practical value, allowing different language communities to contribute their expertise, share operational experiences, and discuss challenges. That said, maintaining community engagement and sustaining an organization is long-term work, and it's difficult to meet all needs in a short time frame.

During the execution of this project, we encountered significant challenges in Romanized writing systems. Since Taiwan's mainstream education emphasizes Mandarin Chinese, writing in romanization—whether for Taiwanese or Indigenous languages—is not widespread and remains difficult for many contributors to master quickly. Therefore, we suggest that some participants focus on audio contributions as a more accessible entry point.

Currently, only 簡單先生 has submitted a 2025 project titled "Taiwanese Proverbs Project," which involves collecting proverbs, uploading audio files, and interviewing elders. We will support this initiative as volunteers and advisors, offering administrative guidance, technical Wikimedia support, and help with updating File information (including Romanization) on Commons. We believe that such efforts will help strengthen the integration between Wikimedia Commons and Wiktionary, thereby enhancing the visibility and usability of the project, and contributing to a more diverse Wikimedia ecosystem.

5) We understand that you have been in regular communication with Wikimedia Taiwan and they have also provided technical support to our projects from 2024 (or earlier). We hope you found the collaboration useful and will continue to reach out to them as an implementing partner. One suggestion we received on your project - Since Taiwanese proverbs are tagged to public domain licence, they meet the requirements of the Mozilla Foundation's Common Voice project. This project could consider using the Common Voice project's interface for recording, and then syncing to appropriate Wikimedia Projects.

Wikimedia Taiwan是很棒的組織，我們、其他原住民族各社群都獲得了他們提供的許多支援，我們一直保持聯繫、合作，非常感謝你們的建議。

我本身也有參與 Common Voice 專案，主要是協助聽音檔，大約8000個，錄音的部份較少，僅為100個，因為Common Voice 專案無法自行上傳音檔，也無法一次錄製超過5個以上的音檔，然後一次上傳，據我的了解，還有一個比較困難的部份，我們無法自行選澤只錄我們提供的「諺語」，我們目前只能依畫面「隨機產生」的句子、詞彙進行錄製。

簡單先生執行的「台語諺語計畫」，有關音檔上傳至commons均已CC 0，關於Common Voice 專案，他目前協助聽音檔，已確認超過600個音檔，他仍會不定期當志工，由於他無法選擇只錄「諺語」，為避免影響計畫，仍維持自行上傳至commons，待「諺語」採集、錄製、上傳完成後，將會提供文字給 Common Voice 專案人員。

關於commons與Common Voice錄音同步的部份，我會主動與 Common Voice 專案人員聯絡，詢問是否有其他更適合的方式。Akamycoco (talk) 16:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

經與Common Voice專案人員確認，錄音的功能確實是依照資料庫內的句子，隨機出現，目前大約有2萬4000句，如果只打算錄諺語，會花太多時間略過句子，目前沒有比較適合的處理方式。 Akamycoco (talk) 04:19, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

JChen (WMF) (talk) 05:11, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Endorsement from iyumu

Support! --iyumu 03:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Your application has been approved

Hello @Vickylin77amis

Thank you for your application and for taking time to respond with additional information. Congratulations, your application has been approved in the amount of TWD 160,000 from 14 April to 31 October 2025.

• I extended the implementation timeline. If you complete your project ahead of time, please feel free to submit your final report early via Fluxx.
• Please add a revised tab in your budget sheet to match the approved amount and share it on the talkpage when this is completed.

Additional resources which may be useful

• Toolkits which may be of interest:
  • audiovisual documentation of low-resourced languages - https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/OpenSpeaks
  • oral cultural transcription toolkit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oral_Culture_Transcription_Toolkit
• The reporting requirements and templates for the grant can be found here. All reports are to be completed and submitted via Fluxx.
• Timelines for reporting can be found in your grant agreement or on Fluxx.
• Instructions for post award: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Processing/Grantee_Portal/Post_award
• Documenting project expenses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Documenting_project_expenses

We thank you for your participation in the grant application process and hope to continue to journey with you as you embark on this project. Good luck!

Regards, Jacqueline on behalf of the ESEAP Funds Committee JChen (WMF) (talk) 09:12, 1 April 2025 (UTC)