Grants talk:Project/Wikiup - Indigenous Knowledge Network

Eligibility confirmed, round 2 2017

This Project Grants proposal is under review!

We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 2 2017 review. Certain aspects of your proposal may not be eligible for funding through Project Grants, since we cannot support development of third party sites. However, to the extent that your work will add content, contributors or in some other eligible way contribute to Wikimedia projects, it can progress through the review.

Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during the community comments period, through 17 October 2017.

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--Marti (WMF) (talk) 02:18, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Questions

Hi Joseph and thank you for this grant submission. The inclusion of Indigenous knowledge in Wikimedia projects is of high importance if we really want to be the sum of all knowledge. I have the following questions

1. You talk about few hundred contributors, five hundred stories, and two to three thousands "story markers". In my understanding, it means that each contributor will share or or two stories, and that each story will have four to six markers. Could you clarify what a "story marker" is and what is the scale of a story ?
2. You talk about a group of 10-12 people to work with 4-6 nations.
   1. Will these 10-12 be Indigenous ? If so, why choosing to have an intermediate working group instead of having one point of contact per nation ?
   2. It sets a goal of 40-72 nations. How many nations have already expressed an interest in Wikiup, how many are in your current network and how many do you need to attract ?
3. Your budget is too coarse-grained. Could you break it up, with an estimate of number of hours and of expected milestones ?

Thank you Léna (talk) 14:12, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Copyleft

This proposal appears to about producing and integrating some content in Wikimedia projects. Yet I open http://wikiup.org/ and I don't see any mention of a free license. This doesn't motivate me to further study the project as something worthwhile. --Nemo 11:19, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Aggregated feedback from the committee for Wikiup - Indigenous Knowledge Network

Scoring rubric	Score
(A) Impact potential Does it have the potential to increase gender diversity in Wikimedia projects, either in terms of content, contributors, or both? Does it have the potential for online impact? Can it be sustained, scaled, or adapted elsewhere after the grant ends?	6.0
(B) Community engagement Does it have a specific target community and plan to engage it often? Does it have community support?	3.0
(C) Ability to execute Can the scope be accomplished in the proposed timeframe? Is the budget realistic/efficient ? Do the participants have the necessary skills/experience?	3.0
(D) Measures of success Are there both quantitative and qualitative measures of success? Are they realistic? Can they be measured?	3.4
Additional comments from the Committee: Proposal fits with both strategic directions (knowledge as service and knowledge equity). Developing best practices for managing Indigenous knowledges and citing oral sources would be impactful. There is no sustainability plan or even details on how existing Wikimedians and new contributors will be engaged throughout the grant The integration with other application is a strategic aim The project certainly fits with Wikimedia's strategic priorities and has the potential for online impact. However its sustainability and scalability is unclear as its goals are vague. The project fits the Wikimedia strategic priorities and has a potential for online impact. However, it needs serious work to be sustainable or even realizable. At this time not enough detail has been provided and the potential for risk is high. Is Wikiup an existing app? If not, when will it be launched? Does the Vancouver Native Housing Society have previous experience with either app development or wikis? The project creates more impact in Wikiup than in Wikimedia projects The project seems innovative but risks are high because a clear project plan is lacking and the participants seem unsure themselves about what they are going to do. Measures of success are non-existent. The grantee has only 8 editions overall projects. The budget seems to vague and there is no explanation about responsibilities of the staff. Need to see more info on budget and proposed activities/timelines. It appears this project is still in preliminary stages of planning and is not ready for funding. It is unclear if the project can be accomplished in 12 months as there is no clear project plan and the goals are very vague. The budget is rudimentary. The skills of the participants are also unclear as they have only a very limited experience with Wikimedia projects. There is a lack of support from Wikimedia users and the grantee haven't show a plan to engage the local community in the process. No on-wiki communities have been notified. Also seems that the participants are not aware of previous work in this area. I get the impression that they have little to no experience with Wikimedia projects which could make effective collaboration at this level difficult The community engagement is very low for a project that aims at "automatically uploading through the APIs and sharing on Wikipedia and other Wikis". There is a lack of explanation -per talk page- about the copyright status and other questions. I didn't read about Wikimedia community engagement in the project and there is no community notifications in Wikimedia communities. I would be more inclined to support this if 1) the app already existed and we had a better idea of content and the specific tensions/examples related to sharing Indigenous knowledge (in order to identify and develop cross-platform best practices) and 2) someone on the project team had some experience with/awareness of Wikimedia projects. I would encourage the team to re-apply once the app is launched (assuming it has not yet been). They may also be interested in speaking to/working with Wikimedia Canada who have been involved with the Wikipedia in Atikamekw language project The projects has very vague goals, no project plan and no measures of success. The community engagement is minimal. The participants have only very limited Wikimedia experience. I can not support such a project.

Opportunity to respond to committee comments in the next week

The Project Grants Committee has conducted a preliminary assessment of your proposal. Based on their initial review, a majority of committee reviewers have not recommended your proposal for funding. You can read more about their reasons for this decision in their comments above. Before the committee finalizes this decision, they would like to provide you with an opportunity to respond to their comments.

Next steps:

1. Aggregated committee comments from the committee are posted above. Note that these comments may vary, or even contradict each other, since they reflect the conclusions of multiple individual committee members who independently reviewed this proposal. We recommend that you review all the feedback carefully and post any responses, clarifications or questions on this talk page by 5pm UTC on Tuesday, May 11, 2021. If you make any revisions to your proposal based on committee feedback, we recommend that you also summarize the changes on your talkpage.
2. The committee will review any additional feedback you post on your talkpage before making a final funding decision. A decision will be announced Thursday, May 27, 2021.

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JosephMacLean, please see note above about the opportunity to respond to committee comments before they finalize a decision on your proposal. Please let me know if you have any questions. Warm regards, --Marti (WMF) (talk) 06:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Round 2 2017 decision

This project has not been selected for a Project Grant at this time.

We love that you took the chance to creatively improve the Wikimedia movement. The committee has reviewed this proposal and not recommended it for funding. This was a very competitive round with many good ideas, not all of which could be funded in spite of many merits. We appreciate your participation, and we hope you'll continue to stay engaged in the Wikimedia context.

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