IRC office hours/Office hours 2015-03-18

Log for VisualEditor

00:40 <whatami> #startmeeting VisualEditor Weekly Bug Triage Meeting

00:40 <wm-labs-meetbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 18 23:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is whatami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.

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00:40 <wm-labs-meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'visualeditor_weekly_bug_triage_meeting'

01:07 <whatami> #topic VisualEditor -- See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal for link to audio  THIS CHANNEL IS ALWAYS PUBLICLY LOGGED

01:17 <whatami> #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1015/

01:39 <whatami> Hello, everyone, and welcome to what is probably the penultimate weekly bug triage meeting for VisualEditor.

01:51 <whatami> The main speaker for this meeting will be James Forrester, who is the Product Manager for VisualEditor.  James will probably not be commenting on IRC himself, but you can hear him and talk to him if you join the Google Hangout.  If you’re not joining the conference call, then talk to us here, and someone will get your ideas or questions passed along.

01:57 <whatami> I have some links you need to know about:

02:02 <whatami> 1)  Where to find information about the meeting, including how to join via Google Hangouts:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal

02:07 <whatami> 2) The project board (with release criteria):  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1015/

02:11 <whatami> 3) The Phabricator work board (with list of newly nominated bugs):  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1015/

04:23 <whatami> Jared Zimmerman, UX person, has stopped in to ask about expanding the user testing that's being planned to include subjective measures like whether editing is enjoyable.

08:07 <whatami> If anyone has any views about how much that should matter, then feel free to speak up or contact James F or Jared later.

09:35 <whatami> Moving on with the agenda:

10:08 <whatami> There was significant progress on the burn-down chart.

10:52 <whatami> The major change is that the Citoid service is reasonably stable in production.

11:31 <whatami> The extension (the software in VisualEditor that calls the service) is still not deployed.

12:34 <whatami> However, it still needs some more work.

13:12 <whatami> As for the rest, James_F says "Other patches got fixed. No one cares."

13:28 <whatami> The first newly nominated bug is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93125

13:41 <whatami> It has been accepted on grounds of corruption.

13:59 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93128 is about & characters getting converted to HTML.

14:06 <whatami> It is being accepted on grounds of corruption.

14:37 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72143 is about copying and pasting.

15:27 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93045 is a new round of Mediawiki:Badtitletext.

15:33 <whatami> It's a corruption bug and is accepted.

16:02 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71494 is about span tags again, and will be merged with the other and accept it.

16:30 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92993 is related to performance measurements.

16:50 <whatami> This is being accepted.

17:17 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92896 is about dirty diffs, with unnecessary spaces being kept at the end of links.

17:52 <whatami> It's being accepted as a polish bug.

18:55 <whatami> It appears that there are some complications involving non-English or non-Latin languages around that one, but it's being accepted anyway.

19:43 <whatami> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92583 is a technical debt bug.

20:01 <whatami> It's being accepted as "polish".

20:22 <whatami> When you create a reference, the links in the citation preview don't always work.

20:46 <whatami> The goal of this bug is to make them either always work or never work, but not sometimes work and sometimes not work.

21:36 <whatami> That's the end of the meeting.  If you have questions, please follow up with James F in the #mediawiki-visualeditor channel, or leave a message at http://mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Feedback.

21:47 <whatami> #endmeeting