IRC office hours/Office hours 2016-01-14 2
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edit[21:30:55] <tremmgs> hi
[21:30:57] <urandom> it's weird seeing these things in person
[21:31:26] <tremmgs> I am a regular on Wikipedia. It is a pleasure to meet you guys.
[21:31:37] <urandom> tremmgs: hi!
[21:32:04] <tremmgs> hi urandom
[21:32:32] <ottomata> i'm on the youtube link
[21:32:38] <ottomata> nothing yet ja?
[21:32:39] <tremmgs> how was everybodys Christmas and New Years?
[21:32:40] <ottomata> OH!
[21:32:40] <ottomata> ther ei tis
[21:34:00] <foks> Poor Krinkle. Everyone mispronounces his name.
[21:34:28] <bd808> mic is clipping on youtube feed
[21:34:45] <James_F> Is the sound coming in and out for others?
[21:34:47] <James_F> Clipping or something, yeah.
[21:35:09] <ori> \o
[21:35:22] <brendan_campbell> working on it
[21:35:39] <foks> ori, I think it's "TIE-hoff". :)
[21:35:40] <ori> should I try to provide a transcription?
[21:35:50] <ori> foks: woops, thanks.
[21:36:03] <foks> ori, no problem!!
[21:36:12] <James_F> brendan_campbell: Thanks!
[21:36:18] <apergos> audio is a bit choppy for the tech talk
[21:36:26] <James_F> Yeah.
[21:36:58] <ori> (strategies for coping with metrics that are "noisy") -- * use single stat, to show the current value (rather than a graph)
[21:37:06] <apergos> (watching youtube stream)
[21:37:18] <ori> gives you space in your dashboards for those metrics you _want_ to graph
[21:37:32] <robla> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/ <-link to the main site
[21:37:52] <ori> for the purposes of this talk, going to split fluctuation to two categories: seasonality and oscillation
[21:38:08] <foks> apergos, it's kinda choppy in the room as well. Lapel mics suuuck :)
[21:38:17] <apergos> urgh
[21:38:24] <James_F> We should get some head-mounted boom mics.
[21:38:54] <tremmgs> good idea
[21:38:56] <ori> was the audio better when i was speaking? (i was using the handheld mike)
[21:39:00] <James_F> ori: Yes.
[21:39:02] <brendan_campbell> yeah lav mics are temperamental
[21:39:08] <ori> ok
[21:39:18] <apergos> I missed you, ori
[21:39:31] <apergos> was switching browsers
[21:39:40] <ori> Krinkle is switching mics
[21:39:51] <ori> better now?
[21:39:56] <tremmgs> yes.
[21:40:03] <tremmgs> that is better
[21:40:06] <brendan_campbell> thanks ori
[21:40:10] <ori> great, thanks folks
[21:40:12] <James_F> Better!
[21:40:15] <James_F> Thank you.
[21:40:23] <apergos> I'll find out in a minute, I think we have a delay in the youtube stream
[21:40:50] <apergos> omg that's soooo much better. instantly even. thanks!
[21:43:06] <James_F> Maybe something like http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?sku=552788&is=REG&A=details&Q= ?
[21:43:27] <brendan_campbell> yeah we do have some countryman earclip mics now
[21:43:42] <James_F> Oh, neat. I must give those a try some time.
[21:43:43] <brendan_campbell> people generally hate wearing them for whatever reason, but i can start pushing them more
[21:44:19] <brendan_campbell> they are widely used in houses of worship, auctions, etc.
[21:44:33] <tremmgs> when I watch it on my phone it is at a different section that shows on ky computer
[21:48:34] <tremmgs> did anybody else get an error on the video?
[21:49:57] <brendan_campbell> tremmgs: stream is working well for me. are you in the office?
[21:52:21] <termmis> hi
[21:53:35] <termmis> what day of the week does your garbage truck come?
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[21:56:47] <foks> Aha.
[21:57:04] <gilles> brendan_campbell: people probably hate them exactly because they make you like a tv salesman/preacher :P
[21:57:23] <gilles> *look like
[21:57:50] <brendan_campbell> gilles: haha exactly
[21:59:29] <gilles> all praise grafana, our dashboarding overlord
[22:04:29] <ori> any questions on irc?
[22:04:49] <truled> well
[22:05:00] <truled> how often do you do this?
[22:05:01] <robla> (link that Timo referenced: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Graphite )
[22:05:18] <foks> truled, do what
[22:05:20] <foks> ?
[22:05:36] <truled> im talking to the speaker
[22:06:33] <ottomata> clap clap clap
[22:06:34] <Scott_WUaS> Thank you, Timo! How does Wikipedia do such dashboards language by language, if at all?
[22:07:00] <bd808> nice talk Krinkle
[22:07:08] <madhuvishy> thanks for the talk Krinkle: )
[22:07:08] <apergos> I hope that was recorded because I missed most of it due to work
[22:07:09] <urandom> Scott_WUaS: the answer is coming...
[22:07:10] <robla> ori is asking the question now
[22:07:23] <urandom> we have a delay, it seems
[22:07:27] <madhuvishy> the live stream died
[22:07:34] <brendan_campbell> apergos: it was recorded
[22:07:50] <apergos> awesome, thanks
[22:08:24] <truled> so the meetng is over?
[22:08:37] <Scott_WUaS> Thanks.
[22:08:44] <robla> Krinkle is recommending to use parameters in the graph templates for the individual site wikis
[22:09:05] <truled> is the meeting over?
[22:09:11] <urandom> truled: yeah
[22:09:14] <robla> he'll be available to chat more on IRC (possibly momentarily)
[22:09:16] <truled> ok
[22:09:55] <robla> truled: were you trying to ask "how often do you give these talks?" or something else?
[22:12:54] <truled> robla yes that os what i asked
[22:23:15] <Krinkle> Scott_WUaS: See https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/scribunto for example
[22:23:48] <Krinkle> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/webpagetest uses the template dropdown as well
[22:24:37] <Scott_WUaS> Krinkle: Thanks, interesting