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Blocking open proxies by a bot
There's a very useful bot on English Wikipedia, ProcseeBot, which automatically blocks open proxies (10,000 blocks from 20:45, 30 October 2009 to 05:15, 30 November 2009 alone), and now there's an adminbot candidate on fiwiki (HarrivBOT), which would be used for the same purpose. On Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ProcseeBot MZMcBride suggests: “Though perhaps it [ProcseeBot] should run at Meta and do this globally?” That sounds like a great idea to me, since it would remove the need to replicate the same work on all Wikimedia projects separately. If others agree, perhaps there could be some coordination with ProcseeBot's operator slakr or someone else who would be willing and trustworthy enough to operate a bot that would block open proxies globally. –Ejs-80 06:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like a very bad idea to me, please read Global blocking to understand that global blocking is not following the local policies, where blocking of proxies, even if they were not yet used for vandalism is performed, but where only IPs are blocked that were problematic _and_ where local blocking would not be effective. Thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 14:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I thought that the policy of denieng editing with open proxies was Wikimedia-wide (since the page No open proxies says: “This page provides information about prohibition on open proxies for Meta and all other Wikimedia projects”; I notice that it says also that “legitimate users … may freely use proxies until those are blocked”). How about a bot that would block open proxies on all projects which want to opt-in for this kind of process? Would there be any problems with that? This could save a lot of effort, after all. –Ejs-80 15:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, that was a condition for enabling global blocking, global block is only for IPs which were used abusively and which can't be stopped locally. Best, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- On dewiki most proxies are blocked anononly. This differs from enwiki policy. Merlissimo 16:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, that was a condition for enabling global blocking, global block is only for IPs which were used abusively and which can't be stopped locally. Best, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- An other point is that the wikis use different times. How long should open proxies be blocked and with which settings? Some (or even many) small wikis are only rarely affected by open proxies. Is it useful to block then if they do good work on a wiki? There are some issue that first need to be claryfied. --Barras 20:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- IMHO, the time zone difference is not relevant issue here, since that difference is at most 23 hours. If a Wikimedia project thinks that this kind of system (automatic blocking of open proxies) is not useful for them, they don't opt-in for it – it's that simple. Decision would be made on the local level. Settings can be discussed, of course. –Ejs-80 11:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't made it clear. With time I meant the block duration. --Barras 14:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- IMHO, the time zone difference is not relevant issue here, since that difference is at most 23 hours. If a Wikimedia project thinks that this kind of system (automatic blocking of open proxies) is not useful for them, they don't opt-in for it – it's that simple. Decision would be made on the local level. Settings can be discussed, of course. –Ejs-80 11:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
By the way, are there currently any other projects than enwiki (and probably fiwiki in the very near future) that use adminbot(s) to block open proxies? –Ejs-80 11:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Tradartrd
http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Tradartrd
User is going wiki by wiki replacing any picture of Yokohama claiming that showing a picture of Yokohama is spam/advertising. es:Drini 06:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)