Requests for new languages/Wikinews Kurdish

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Request for a new language edition: Wikinews Kurdish

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submitted

verification

final decision

This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

• The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
• The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
• The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	ku (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Kurdish	Language name in English
Language name	كوردي	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q36368 - item has currently the following values: English label: Kurdish native label (P1705): Zimanê Kurdî, زمانی کوردی, Kurdî, کوردی instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): language, macrolanguage, modern language / Northwestern Iranian Wikimedia language code (P424): ku writing system (P282): Latin script, Arabic alphabet, Cyrillic script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 21,000,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR for ku-Latn, RTL for ku-Arab	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	ku.wikinews.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikinews	"Wikinews" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikinews talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	yes	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone		"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

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• Number of speakers: 40.000.000 million of people
• Location spoken: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Armenia, Lebanon.

Arguments in favour

• Support Support Pir başe. Êdîna Wîkînûçe ya Kurdî jî heye.Mehk63 (talk) 15:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
• Support Support There do already exist Kurdish WikiMedia-Projects, e.g. the kurdish Wikipedia with now nearly 10.000 articles and a wiktionary with nearly 35.000 articles. So there will be a future for this new Kurdish Project. --Bangin 17:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support Support It is necessary for every language to live in all aspects of Wikimedia. --Zandweb 02:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support Support. --Kaaveh Ahangar 22:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support Support there are 20 - 25 million people speaks this language. Wikinews is necessary for millions of Kurds. --Maviulke12 05:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
• Support Support I support it.I agree Maviulkel12.85.176.140.77 14:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I support it! --Mirzali 22:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support - I support it to, we need that! Kurdodino 13:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
• Support Kurdish Wiktionary is a particularly successful project and I am confident that the Wikinews would be as well. Bogorm 17:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
• Support Support Euskaldun 15:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
• Support I support this project. --Veritas-tr 18:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
• Support I support this project. --Kurdbuddha 16:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
• Support --Ταπυροι (گپ) 07:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
• Support Bodhdharma (talk) 06:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
• Support I think Kurdish wiki is eligible to have its Wikinews. thanks. TheStrayDog (talk) 12:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment I want admins to consider that opposed users are mostly of Turkish descent which may not be neutral about this creation. That's because of Turkish-Kurdish underway conflict. Thanks. TheStrayDog (talk) 12:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Arguments against

•   Comment Out of the 10,000 articles practically almost all are stubs created in a bot like manner. There are serious problems on KU wiki on a variety of problems ranging from neutrality to copyright violations. KU.wiki doesn't have much of a matured community. Very few active editors. I feel it is far too early for this. It should be experimented on the incubator either way. -- Cat ^chi? 17:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

  I'd like to add that wikinews has time constraints unlike other wikis. I do not believe there is enough of a Kurdish wikipedia community to cover world news in a systematic manner. -- Cat ^chi? 11:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

•   Comment I thing this project won't be good. --Absar 10:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  This wasn't an argument against, it was just an opinion without any comment. --Bangin 14:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  Please do not strike out other peoples comments even if you disagree with them. The closing person of this discussion is more than qualified to weight arguments. -- Cat ^chi? 14:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  There is something funny. All people who oppose Wikinews Kurdish are Turks. You really care Wiki - projects or you are just againist Kurdish culture? --Gomada 18:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose Oppose No activity. --OosWesThoesBes 06:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose Oppose Not enough support (Red4tribe 17:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC))
• Oppose Oppose Please focus first on Wikipedia, before starting spin-offs. --Jeroen 02:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Oppose Per OosWesThoesBes and Red4tribe. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 09:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Oppose As Jeroen said, the Wikipedia is too underdeveloped Rbritt518 06:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Oppose Oppose--Aycan 11:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose Oppose As Jeroen and Rbritt518 said,they should improve their wikipedia first,to start Wikinews.--Rockermert hsm 17:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose Nope, Wikinewses need to be fast and I see hardly any activity to justify the creation of this Wikinews. Pmlineditor  Talk 16:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose OpposeIt needs to be a living project which there's no sign for it. I doubt it'll be updated enough. --Kafkasmurat (talk) 11:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)