Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Bahasa Riau
Bahasa Riau Wikipedia
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- Approximate number of speakers: 6,000,000
- Location(s) spoken
- Sumatera Island (Indonesia,Asia) (Riau province)
- State of Johor and Selangor of Malaysia and widely understood by the Malaysian (especially those from peninsula)
- Closely related languages, if any:Malaysian, Indonesia (Malay)
Riau has many dialects. It's can be divided into 2 major group : Riau Pesisir and Riau Daratan. Riau Pesisir very similar with Bahasa Melayu. Bahasa Riau Daratan same as Bahasa Palembang/Jambi and Minangkabau/Bengkulu whereis ended with o, as example kita (Indonesia) -> kite (Melayu) -> kito (Sumatera :Riau,Palembang,Minang). Bahasa Riau similar with Bahasa Minang in change of at to be ek, in ex : tepat (Indonesia) -> topek(Riau) -> tapek (Minang). However Bahasa-bahasa Riau has many word different from Minangkabau, Melayu and Indonesia.
- Bahasa Riau is the name of the group of dialects which both Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Melayu are based on. It is not a distinct language in the way Minangkabau or Jambi are considered separate languages, although they are all part of a continuum. I oppose this request, but would support requests for Minangkabau or other clearly distinct languages in the region. --Chamdarae 18:29, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Support: At a glance, Riau's like another form of Indonesian or Malaysian (Malay language includes Indonesian as well) dialect, however, their grammar and pronunciation have totally been altered such that Indonesian and Malaysian languages used a standardized grammar called Bahasa Baku while Riau has their own grammar and pronunciation. Excluding Malaysia peninsula (especially state of Johor and Selangor), bahasa baku is widely used thru out the Indonesia and Malaysia. Altough my native is Buginese but I'm totally mastered Riau because it is widely spoken among the resident state of Johor and Selangor (including Kuala Lumpur) and ironically, has a lot of trouble adapting to Bahasa Baku of Malaysian :P. Most people misundestood that Riau is the Malay language because it's widely spoken in Capital city Kuala Lumpur and State of Johor (especially). Untill today, I still used Riau in my daily conversation in stead of Bahasa Baku, which most of my listeners had a lot trouble understanding it. Quoting what Chamdarea said, Minangkabau in Malaysia is one of the Malay dialects however, since Minangkabau originated from Indonesia, thus it's a distinctive language. Same goes to Riau. semoge berjaye teman, kenape tak tulis artikel di wikipedia bahasa indonesie atau inggeris? senang mereke nak paham Zaidpjd 06:05, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Zaidpjd, could you give some examples? Could you write a short paragraph in Bahasa Riau (maybe 2-4 sentences), and a translation in Malay / Indonesian? I'm curious how big the difference really is. --Chamdarae 23:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- Support: At a glance, Riau's like another form of Indonesian or Malaysian (Malay language includes Indonesian as well) dialect, however, their grammar and pronunciation have totally been altered such that Indonesian and Malaysian languages used a standardized grammar called Bahasa Baku while Riau has their own grammar and pronunciation. Excluding Malaysia peninsula (especially state of Johor and Selangor), bahasa baku is widely used thru out the Indonesia and Malaysia. Altough my native is Buginese but I'm totally mastered Riau because it is widely spoken among the resident state of Johor and Selangor (including Kuala Lumpur) and ironically, has a lot of trouble adapting to Bahasa Baku of Malaysian :P. Most people misundestood that Riau is the Malay language because it's widely spoken in Capital city Kuala Lumpur and State of Johor (especially). Untill today, I still used Riau in my daily conversation in stead of Bahasa Baku, which most of my listeners had a lot trouble understanding it. Quoting what Chamdarea said, Minangkabau in Malaysia is one of the Malay dialects however, since Minangkabau originated from Indonesia, thus it's a distinctive language. Same goes to Riau. semoge berjaye teman, kenape tak tulis artikel di wikipedia bahasa indonesie atau inggeris? senang mereke nak paham Zaidpjd 06:05, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- This was on the page for no supporters, but in light of Zaidpjd's support, I have moved it back to the main page. Tuf-Kat 08:58, 20 November 2005 (UTC)