Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Early Middle English (EMe)

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: It was rejected since in historical languages, only Wikisource projects can maybe be eligible per LPP. --MF-W 15:38, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	(SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Late Old / Early-Middle English	Language name in English
Language name	Enɜlisch	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item		Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	no indication	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Ƿicipædia	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Continent/City	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

Related languages: Icelandic, Frisian, Proto-Scandinavian, Modern English, Old Saxon _{(Anglo-Saxon)}
Locations spoken: Mercia, Northumbria around 950-1250

100% Pure Germanic roots

Discussion

No new dead language projects will be created, but you can contribute to incubator:Wp/enm (in no particular period of ME) or ang: (in Old English). PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Old English Wikipedia is in a completely different language which is called by experts "Anglo-Saxon", or more preferably, "old-Saxon". Since modern English isn't based on Bristol dialect, Anglo-saxon would seem alian to a modern English speaker compared to Early Modern English, which has lost inflections and influxed by old norse words. User:Eitansh (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: [1] for signature history. --MF-W 21:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know they are different languages. And, by the way, isn't Old Saxon (osx) different from Anglo-Saxon/Old English (ang)? At least according to ISO it is. They are both Ingvaeonic though. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The ISO codes given by the page creator (eme, ea) are non-existant or assigned to different languages. --MF-W 21:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg: enm is a valid language code, but refers to all time periods of Middle English. Anyway this will be rejected as even Ancient Greek was. PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
bug 55491 That is possible, but I referred to the codes given by the proposer. --MF-W 23:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I figured out about the new policy a while ago, and I'm kinda pissed.. Although I truely think Early Middle English deserves at the very least a mentioning on Wikipedia, as it has a community dedicated for it englesaxe and Ancient Greek already has a nice article about it and is thoroughly studied, the early period of middle english is usualy looked over by scholars and doesnt't even have a single mentioning of it on the English Language article. --User:Eitansh (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC) — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.125.81.58 (talk) [reply]