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A committee member provided the following comment:

Please contribute to the test project. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code mak (SIL, Glottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Makassarese Language name in English
Language name ᨅᨔ ᨆᨀᨔᨑ / Basa Mangkasarak Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33643 - item has currently the following values:
 Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL mak.wikipedia.org langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipedia usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Pambicarang Wikipedia "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo [[:, ]] This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Makassar Time, WITA (UTC+8) "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

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Makassar language is a language of the Makassarese, spoken in South Sulawesi province of Indonesia. It is a member of the South Sulawesi group of the Austronesian language family, and thus closely related to, among others, Buginese. In 2010, the Makassar language had 1.8 million native speakers. Makasar language has recognized 3 writing systems, like Makassar script (16-19 centuries), Serang (for religious purposes), Bugis script and Latin alphabet. Latin and Bugis script are the most widely used today.

The Makassarese live in the south‒west corner of the peninsula. Most of them are concentrated in the fertile coastal plain around the city of Makassar and to the south; these are the kabupatens (administrative districts) of Gowa and Takalar, considered the heartland of the Makassarese. Gowa also extends into the mountains which occupy the centre of the peninsula, but these are more sparsely populated. To the north of Makassar are the kabupatens of Maros and Pangkajene Kepulauan (Pangkep), which are densely populated with a mixture of Bugis and Makassarese. On the south coast are the kabupatens of Jeneponto and Bantaeng, whose inhabitants identify as Makassarese though their dialects are substantially different from that of Gowa and Takalar.

The Gowa dialect (also called Lakiung, the name of a district of Gowa which is now a suburb of Makassar) is considered a prestige variety, and it is this dialect which is described here (in fact this can be considered the default reading of ʻMakassareseʼ).

Ethnologue classifies the Makassar language as a language with level 6b (Threatened) on the EGIDS scale, which indicates that although this language is still commonly used in face-to-face conversations, the process of transmitting or teaching language naturally between generations has begun to be disrupted.

ᨈᨑᨗᨆ ᨀᨔᨗ ᨍᨕᨗ ᨉᨘᨉᨘ ᨆᨕᨙ ᨑᨗ ᨀᨈᨙ ᨂᨔᨙ᨞ ᨔᨒᨆᨀᨗ ᨊᨀᨗᨄᨑ ᨔᨒᨆ᨞ --Han4299 (talk) 08:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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The Makassarese script no longer used since 19th centuries. Latin alphabet and Buginese script most commonly used. --Han4299 (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Han4299: For "Barambang", "Barambang Pambicarang", "Dattarak", "Dattarak Pambicarang", "Panngukirik", "Pambicarang Panngukirik", what's the English (or Indonesian) equivalent? Thanks. In case you are translating from "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk", then I suggest you don't ask these additional namespaces, because those namespace are specifically for Wikisource.
    Untuk "Barambang", "Barambang Pambicarang", "Dattarak", "Dattarak Pambicarang", "Panngukirik", "Pambicarang Panngukirik", apa padanan Indonesia (atau Inggrisnya)? Terima kasih. Jika ini merupakan terjemahan dari "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk", maka sebenarnya tidak diperlukan, karena ruang nama seperti contoh tersebut hanya terkhusus untuk Wikisource. ✒ Bennylin 16:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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