Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Petjo
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Language code | pey (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
Language name | Petjo | Language name in English |
Language name | Petjoh | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
Language Wikidata item | Q940486 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
Directionality | LTR | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
Site URL | pey.wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
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Project talk namespace | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) | |
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Proposal
editPetjo (usually written as Petjoh in Petjo) is a Dutch-based creole spoken mostly by the Indos, people of mixed Dutch and Indonesian ancestry. This language is lexically mainly based on the Dutch language with the syntax mainly based on the Batavian/Betawi language.[1][2] Nowadays, this language stands as an endangered language—with not so many native speakers—that needs a serious effort in revitalisation.[3] Fortunately, this language still has a good and clear documentation, although the number is not vast, that makes this language still have a chance to be preserved and revitalised. For example, there are about 42 mini-stories under the series titled Ik en Bentiet (from 1958 to 1967) written by Tjalie Robinson (or Vincent Mahieu; originally Jan Boon), a prominent Indo-Dutch author who wrote many books about life in the East Indies both in Dutch and Petjo. Hence, we can base the written form of the language.
Here are listed several works that are useful in helping the preservation effort of the language.
Literary works
edit- Robinson, Tjalie. (1958–1967). Ik en Bentiet. Tong Tong. (Available for online open access on https://moesson.pictura-dp.nl/search?query=Ik+en+Bentiet&period=&sort=relevance&f_periodicalcode%5B0%5D=TONG&submit=zoeken)
- Je-lâh-je-kripoet: Humor uit het oude Indië, de beste verhalen en moppen uit zeven jaargangen van Tong Tong. (n.d.). Tong Tong.
Lexicographical works
edit- Cress, Richard. (1998). Petjoh: Woorden en wetenswaardigheden uit het Indische verleden. Prometheus.
Grammatical works
edit- van Rheeden, Hadewych A. (1995). Het Petjo van Batavia : ontstaan en structuur van de taal van de Indo's. Amsterdam: Universiteit van Amsterdam, Instituut voor Algemene Taalwetenschap.
Note: This Wikipedia project can be done by Petjo native speakers, Petjo speakers, and also Dutch-speaking Batavians/Indonesians and/or Batavian/Indonesian-speaking Dutch.
Discussion
edit- Support --Jon Gua (talk) 05:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per enwiki: “native speakers: ‘some’”, “expected to become extinct”. Not enough evidence of practical use. Dronebogus (talk) 16:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral Per Ethnologue: There are some L1 speakers (Wurm 2007). In this case, I'd love to seek for a possible re-check that how much of the populations Petjo speakers are. Ethnologue also doesn't mention any writing systems Petjo use, which probably means that Petjo is only a speaking language without known writing materials? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
References
edit- ↑ van Rheeden, Hadewych (1994), "Tjalie Robinson en het Petjo", in Paasman, Bert; et al., Tjalie Robinson, de stem van Indisch Nederland, Stichting Tong Tong, p. 46
- ↑ Cress, Richard (1998), Petjoh: Woorden en wetenswaardigheden uit het Indische verleden, Prometheus, p. 18
- ↑ "Petjo". Ethnologue. Retrieved 2024-01-30.