Talk:Interwiki map/Archives/2007-07

(Note: This archive is not complete yet, there are other items that need archiving in the sections other than additions, but I think I got all the accepted/rejected additions. This note will be removed when completed... ++Lar: t/c 11:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC))

Proposed additions

Accepted

Livepedia

Please add [[livepedia:NAME]] with http://www.livepedia.gr/index.php?title=$1 URI. Livepedia is an encyclopedia simmilar to wikipedia, based on a previously proprietary encyclopedic dictionary and now licensed to GFDL. Enough articles are imported from there to el.wikipedia (and vice versa). Thanks. Geraki 09:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

In el.wikipedia there are already enough links to Livepedia, and there will be more very soon. Please check this one month old request... Geraki 08:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

How do you know there are going to be more? Eagle 101 21:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I went to this site and had some trouble determining its size, scope and history, because the site (not surprisingly given the domain name (grin) ) is in Greek. Can someone familiar with this site give some idea of how many articles this site has, and what their topics are? Are they general interest (as Geraki suggests)? How long has it been active? Who is behind it? Is it likely that gr.wikipedia.org would have a lot of links to it, for example? Are there versions in other languages? Thanks for any further info that can be shared. I'm inclined to add this but am not sure if the prefix is the right one (if there are other languages, for example.) Apologies for all the questions, for an english site I would just have checked myself (as I did for a few other sites I commented on) ++Lar: t/c 15:18, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

This site (Livepedia) is a general encyclopedia and dictionary just like Wikipedia and Wiktionary. It has 30.000 entries, most of them from a commercial encyclopedic dictionary published by Magenta (the same company that runs the site) and now distributed according to GFDL. It's working more than a year (maybe two) and there is only a greek version. How do we know there are going to be more? From the time of the request 22 December until now 12 April the links are 10 times more. I can't believe that there are some interwikis for small sites with little content like brasilwiki: and we have to discuss so much to satisfy our needs for a site with much more useful content. These things make us feel that non-english/german/french wikis are the poor brothers who have to wait for months before its their turn (we have more requests in bugzilla, like the creation of Portal namespace, and we wait since December) Geraki 00:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I'm inclined to add this if the prefix could be clarified. LivePedia is available, is that the best choice? Note that LinuxWiki is in there as LinuxWiki and LinuxWikiDe ... would LivePediaGr be a good choice? You say "LivePedia:NAME" above so... ++Lar: t/c 18:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that "livepedia" is the best choice (small case p). It is unlikely that a livepedia in another language would be created. The project stands on the base of the material they had, and they don't have an english or other language encyclopedia. Geraki

Done - added [[Livepedia:]] as http://www.livepedia.gr/index.php?title=$ (no uppercase P per request) ++Lar: t/c 20:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

wikiHow

• [[wikihow:Topic]] -> http://www.wikihow.com/Topic

wikiHow is one of the biggest wikis on the Web right now, and its purpose is step-by-step instructions for all kinds of how-to information. It would be useful for additional info for Wikipedia articles, Wikibooks chapters, or other text that may benefit from step-by-step instructions.

The above mapping is probably sufficient, although not perfect. One tricky part is that they use dashes instead of underscores for spaces, so you can't do [[wikihow:Save Money]], since MediaWiki makes that into http://www.wikihow.com/Save_Money; you have to write it as [[wikihow:Save-Money]] which becomes http://www.wikihow.com/Save-Money . Also, although they have multiple language versions, you can't do [[wikihow:es:Portada]], since that becomes http://www.wikihow.com/es:Portada , which doesn't work right.

I've talked to Travis at wikiHow about this, and hopefully he can take a look at the problems. However, they're both on the wikiHow side, and don't require that this mapping get changed. --Evan 21:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how "one of the biggest wikis on the web right now" is supported by Special:Statistics. Most of the articles on the wiki would be inappropriate as external links on En-Wiki in any case. Also, w:WP:COI :) J.smith 18:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I was imprecise in my use of the word "biggest". I should have said "most popular", as can be seen on their Alexa ranking.

I'd be surprised if there were no articles on WP-en where links to these howtos would be useful, since instruction manuals are specifically something that Wikipedia is not.

w/r/t COI, I don't have a business, financial or any other formal relationship with wikiHow, except as a very occasional contributor [1]. The reason I bring it up here is for consistency, since I already added it to the default MediaWiki table, and general feelings of WikiOhana. --Evan 18:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Your probably right... (my reference to WP:COI was mostly in jest since this isn't wikipedia, but point taken in your rebuttal). J.smith 23:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd support inclusion of WikiHow in the map pending resolution of the -/_ issue. ++Lar: t/c 22:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Did this ever get resolved? ++Lar: t/c 19:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Dmcdevit 07:03, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

International Music Score Library Project (IMSLP)

Very useful for the classical music articles --213.156.52.120 11:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

This wiki appears to have over 2000 scores already and has some neat formatting and templates set up, as well as using timelines to show composers and so forth. It strikes me as likely to get a fair number of inbound links. What would be the prefix desired? InternationalMusicScoreLibraryProject: seems rather a mouthful, and IMSLP: not very easy to remember. What would folk think of "Scores:" or "MusicScores:" ?? ++Lar: t/c 15:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I'm the admin of IMSLP... and I think "Scores:" is a pretty good name, since the only other music score wiki is the CPDL, and they already have an interwiki mapping :) --Feldmahler 15:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Done ... added "Scores:" as http://www.imslp.org/wiki/$1 ++Lar: t/c 18:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

test.wikipedia.org

Please add [[test:]] with http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 URI.
Reason: Another Wikimedia Foundation site.
Thanks. Danny B. 14:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Is "test" the best prefix to use here? If we don't think there is likely to be collision later, I'm in favour (and will do this one and Beta shortly barring any objections). ++Lar: t/c 14:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Done, Already added added as Testwiki: xaosflux ^Talk 04:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

be-x-old

[[be-x-old:]] was the former contents of the Belarusian Wikipedia, but moved to make room for the normative spelling. Because of this, many articles on Wikipedia were affected by the move. At least, 3000 pages on en.wikipedia were affected by the move and caused broken links between the articles. Not just en.wikipedia, but other wikipedia's were affected by the move. So, the faster we can add back be-x-old.wikipedia to the interwiki list, the faster the development of the moved wiki can commence. Zscout370 01:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. —{admin} Pathoschild 05:17:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

ValueWiki

ValueWiki is an investment wiki, with useful-to-high-quality articles on companies. In English. Their blog is very nice too, especially about wikis in general. Suggested prefix: [[[[valuewiki:]]. - David Gerard 13:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Done, very nice wiki with lots of information. MaxSem 14:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

wikilivres.info

As a mentioned on the foundation-l on the thread "PD in Israel", please add to the interwikimap the http://wikilivres.info/wiki/index.php/$1 as a [[wikilivres:something]] and/or [[wl:something]] (searching on http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp?order=639_3&letter=w I can't found wl as a langcode). 555 17:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Either prefix at our discretion or both prefixes? I intend to do this next week if there is no valid objection raised within 7 days (ping me if I forget and no one else did it! :) ) ++Lar: t/c 12:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it is better to only use full site names for interwiki prefixes. Two or three letter prefixes looks like language codes, even when they are not. Full site names are not as likely to be mistaken for something else. And most of the other prefixes use full names. /82.212.68.183 13:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Done - I have added [[wikilivres:something]] I agree with the anon that it is probably best not to use wl at this time. ++Lar: t/c 19:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Rejected

Well Designed URLs Initiative

Link is:

• [[WellDesignedURLs:Article name]]

Points to:

• http://wiki.welldesignedurls.org/$1

The Well Designed URLs Initiative provides URL education for end users as well as patterns and best practices for URL usage for web developers; framework, server, and networking infrastructure developers; and all the way to W3C specification writers. Well Designed URLs Initiative wiki even has a page for MediaWiki and another specifically for explaining how to configure clean URLs for Mediawiki. This site will be useful for people needing to userstand or get help for configuring their URLs for MediaWiki as well as many other web apps, and/or for understanding why User-Centered URL Design is so important.

Thanks for considering.

-MikeSchinkel 13:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The log of changes for the last 30 days [2] as of this writing shows less than 100 updates, by only 3 IDs. I'm not seeing the likelyhood of a lot of inbound links either, as the topic is very narrowly focused, in my view. Perhaps when this wiki has grown and is more active? I'd be inclined not to do this just yet. ++Lar: t/c 15:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Not done no activity in over 2 months. ++Lar: t/c 00:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Centiare

I'm very happy that I can propose Centiare (Centiare.com) to be included in this great list. Centiare would solve a couple of problems (at once) that Wikipedia seems to be having. First, Centiare-related Google search results have been shown to actually outperform Wikipedia-related results. This fact would help to "draw off" many of the SEO spammers from Wikipedia to Centiare. Second, many articles on Wikipedia are hotly debated over Notability and Original Research. These articles, for the most part, would be embraced and welcomed at Centiare -- another bonus for Wikipedia. --Centiare 15:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Just in case anyone is tempted by this, Centiare is in the top ten recent banned spam targets on en.wikipedia.org... --AndrewCates 20:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see a link to this "top ten" list. Centiare is attracting top-notch individuals in the world of semantic web (which I can cite, if you don't believe this). The fact that it is just blanket rejected from the Interwiki list shows that politics within Wikimedia plays a stronger role than fairness or even logic. --Centiare 03:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

An argument in favor of Centiare being included would be the interesting and diverse GFDL free content (in line with the Wikimedia Foundation mission statement) found on pages in Centiare that would not likely be approved within Wikipedia, such as:

• Naval architecture in the Industrial Age
• Eleven Eleven Club
• An animated sudoku image
• Pedal operated keyboard
• Flauxbam
• A portal directory of firms belonging to NAICS code family 54, generated with semantic RDF parser in Semantic MediaWiki

Honestly, by trying to make free and unique content like this available to a wider community of interlinked wikis, I am truly wondering how and why Centiare shouldn't be included on the Interwiki map? --Centiare 04:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Top ten was hyperbole but Centiare are nuisance spammers, just look through all the archives e.g. [3]--AndrewCates 05:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 Oppose I received an offline plea from MyWikiBiz/Gregory to consider adding a prefix for Centiare, based presumably on the fact that I have added some prefixes recently but had chose not to add this one when I did so. The argument advanced in that note, and above, is that there is valuable content in Centiare. But the relevant question is not whether there might be valuable content in Centiare, it is whether Centiare, taken as a whole, is value add to the community of wikis, sufficient that it should be endorsed (defacto, see below for a new thread on this: Talk:Interwiki_map#Inclusion_criteria_clarification?) by getting a prefix. I agree with the thread below that granting a prefix is a kind of endorsement. Given the history here as per the archive AndrewCates cites above, it is an endorsement I am strongly opposed to granting. It is clear to me that Centiare's reason for existing is for SEO, and valuable content, if any, is a side effect, not the primary mission. I We should not enable search optimizers or linkspammers in any way, shape or form, in my view. Therefore I would ask all admins to strongly consider NOT adding this prefix. NB I am not swayed by charges of wikipolitics and the like, my opposition is based on logic. ++Lar: t/c 12:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

(SECTION MOVED HERE FROM BELOW) My suggestion for "what should be done" first, would be to stop portraying Centiare as "SEO spam". While Centiare does indeed get very favorable Google search results (thanks in large part to the RDF semantic web architecture that Denny Vrandecic (creator of Semantic MediaWiki) so thoughtfully designed), that is not a reason to label it as a source of "spam". Similar logic would equally label Wikipedia itself as "spam". Come now, let's not call a beagle a jackal, just because they both have four legs.

If certain Centiare-bashers would set aside their agenda for just a minute or two, consider this. Wikipedia has a problem with a rising tide of non-notable, WP:AUTO-violating, POV-pushing articles and editors, right? A concerted effort by Wikipedia's elite anti-spam guardians to suggest that those articles and users migrate over to Centiare instead, would be harmful how, exactly? Not only does Centiare offer a more attractive home to these types you're trying to get rid of, the worst offenders can actually learn how to financially reward themselves by posting their own AdSense ads or Amazon links within Centiare, on well-designed pages intended to get their own traffic from Google -- not from Wikipedia! If you fail to see how this makes sense in a positive and beneficial way for Wikipedia, you may be beyond rational discussion. --Centiare 05:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

(Responded here as this is not germane to the overall discussion in the new section David started) That's all well and good but it is not an argument for why an interwiki link is needed, or even why Centiare shouldn't be on the spam blacklist (were it to be on it). See above... in fact this may bear moving up to the Centiare section as it's not germane to improving standards for deciding what is in or out. ++Lar: t/c 12:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Lar and Andrew, while I appreciate the passion with which you defend the project from perceived threats, I think your perception is what needs adjusting. I think you're of the belief that Centiare aims to infiltrate Wikipedia article mainspace with outbound links. I apologize if I conveyed that belief. To set the record straight, what I am proposing is that Centiare links might be liberally used when Wikipedia admins are communicating with user_talk pages on accounts they feel are trying to use Wikipedia for spamming purposes. It could be something as simple as...

Hello, User:SeemsToBeSpamming. I notice that you're trying to create an article about Bob's Discount Plumbing. This topic is non-notable and doesn't pass WP:CORP requirements. Please do not attempt to re-add this article to Wikipedia until the company does meet the WP:CORP standards. In the meantime, Wikipedia recommends that you direct your efforts at other fine wiki properties that achieve some fairly impressive search engine optimization results. Namely, please check out the various Wikia.com (interwiki link) families of wikis, the domain catalog found at AboutUs.org, or the semantic wiki Centiare.com.

Now, if this is completely offensive to you, then I understand that you are entitled to that opinion. However, until we get your perception on the same plane as mine, I don't think it's fair that your Oppose "vote" represents my understanding of what I'm trying to present here. Thanks for reconsidering, and I look forward to your comments or reply. --Centiare 13:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

"Wikipedia recommends that you direct your efforts at other fine wiki properties that achieve some fairly impressive search engine optimization results." Bzzt, that's wrong at about 3 different levels. 1) An admin is not Wikipedia. 2) Wikipedia doesn't recommend things. 3) Even if it did, I find it quite far fetched that it would recommend based on SEO related things. WMF is not in the business of manufacturing notability. My strong opposition stands in principle, subject only to modification in implementation by what Tim is discussing below. ++Lar: t/c 14:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Point well-taken, Lar. But, let's not bog down in the detailed syntax of what I happened to write without much thought. Change "Wikipedia" to "I personally". Change "achieve some fairly impressive search engine optimization results" to "achieve good results". Whatever. The point I am trying to make is that Wikipedia admins and spam-fighters have two options at all times:

1. Ruthlessly block external efforts to spam Wikipedia with self-promotional links or content, and relish in the vindictive joy of the battle.
2. Ruthlessly block external efforts to spam Wikipedia with self-promotional links or content, and simultaneously subdue the opposition by politely redirecting them to other sites where their efforts would be embraced.

Granted, I have now spun this discussion well beyond the bailiwick of the "Interwiki map" arena. Perhaps someone could recommend to me a place where my ideas might be more appropriately discussed? Or, just choose Option 1 above, and keep hammering me over the head.  ;-)

P.S. I appreciate and respect that we have at least moved beyond hyperbole into meaningful engagement on the issues.--Centiare 15:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK Wikipedia plans to nofollow the interwiki links too (see mailing lists) so you are probably wasting your time, given your aims --82.153.221.169 16:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've been following that discussion on WikiEN-l, too. My aims are not affected by activating "nofollow" or not. My aim is to make it easier for Wikipedia admins to redirect unwanted spammers to an alternative wiki that houses free content and welcomes self-promotion. It's a very simple concept. I see it as helping the Wikipedia project, and (of course) helping my project. It's what's known as a "win-win", but apparently we have a healthy share of skepticism dousing that possibility. --Centiare 20:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Have you ever had any indication that any admin wanted or liked this proposition? --AndrewCates 08:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, they seem too busy "fighting spam" to think creatively about ways to co-opt the spammers in a constructive way. Wikipedia is inherently confrontational in its cultural mindset. Despite my efforts, it's tough to chisel through that almost-impenetrable shield. I've just about come to the conclusion that most avid Wikipedians actually rather enjoy the incessant battle, rather than the task of writing an encyclopedia. If you look at your most active admins (those with the most edits in the past 60 days), I think you'll find that 95% of their edits are "janitorial" and "maintenance" oriented, rather than contributing content to the compendium. You would think that they'd want to be relieved of some of this "fight the onslaught of spam" duty, but I'm really starting to wonder whether that's true. The monotone opposition we've seen to Centiare in the paragraphs above itself suggests that Wikipedians may be failing to see its benefits the way other independent reviewers have managed to do. --Centiare 20:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Interesting link Talk:Spam_blacklist#centiare.com. Can a blacklisted website owned by a banned user be part of the interwiki-map? (Requestion 20:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC))

Probably not. Probably time to archive this as a failed request. ... ++Lar

Not done and will archive this next time I visit here unless someone else does so first. ++Lar: t/c 00:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Bondpedia

Bondpedia should be added to this list because because there are so many pages about wikipedia:James Bond on wikimedia websites. Not only would Wikipedia pages about james bond be able to link to bondpedia, but wikimedia sites like wikiquote could link to it. Please include bondpedia. --72.192.0.241 01:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Is that actually a lot of inbound links, though? Single narrow topic links are not as popular as ones with wider likely use. I'm inclined not to do this one. ++Lar: t/c 14:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Not done no activity on the request in over 2 months. ++Lar: t/c 00:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

OD alternative for OrganicDesign

Hi there, we've been using an additional shortform of "OD" for our "OrganicDesign" interwiki (www.organicdesign.co.nz/$1) locally and would like it added here too please since we refer to extension scripts and articles on OrganicDesign from the mediawiki.org wiki and would like to be able to use the short OD: alternative for these. Thanks, Aran. --Nad 22:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

OD seems like it would be too likely to have name collision to me, I'm not sure it's a good idea for this wiki. ++Lar: t/c 14:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

No activity in over 2 months... Not done and will archive next time I visit here unless someone else does first. ++Lar: t/c 00:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the reason there appears to have been no activity is that the OrganicDesign host completely failed and they ended up restoring from an old off-site backup, losing alot of changes over several months. This site is certainly very active. --Firebreather 10:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Only 5 hours of changes were lost in said host failure. But I don't really care about the shortcut names for the site that much anyway. --Nad 10:27, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, no activity refers to discussion here about the prefix. In March I said a two letter prefix seemed a bad idea, and no one responded to that for over two months so I inferred that there was no objection to my objection, and marked it as not done. Nothing to do with the site itself. Sorry for any confusion on that point. ++Lar: t/c 10:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been here the whole time, and have this page watched, but somehow missed the comment re OD. I'd still like it to be done since I link to OD a lot on the mediawiki wiki from my extensions, but it's just a luxury really since there's already the existing OrganicDesign interwiki. --Nad 21:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I just don't think two letter prefixes should be given out without a LOT more discussion and clear consensus than there is for this one. Feel free to see if you can reopen the discussion by involving other meta admins, but that's my thinking. ++Lar: t/c 02:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiSport.es

closed: Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time

Link is: [[WikiSport:Article name]] or [[WikiSport-es:Article name]]

Points to: http://www.wikisport.es/wiki/

WikiSport pretends be the most popular encyclopedia about all sports, and its sportive history. It's probably that in several months it can be able to have thousands of articles, first in spanish version. It would be very interesting to link to definitions of clubs with Wikipedia, as the same time could use commons images. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.34.90.81 (talk) 14:17, 19 April 2007

The statisticspage doesn't show a lot of activity, it may be better to wait till this has matured more. The theory is to add wikis when they are generally useful, not as a way to drive traffic or growth. Also, to your last point, I'm not sure that being added to the interwiki map does the technical enablement to directly reference images from Commons... I would be inclined not to add this at this time. ++Lar: t/c 17:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiSport.es Administrator says:

 I understand, I suppose you're right, and it may be better to wait for several monts, seeing
 how is the website's evolution. Anyway, thank you for your time.--
Skorpio21 18:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiPasy

closed: Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time Link is: [[WikiPasy:Article name]] or [[WikiPasy-pl:Article name]]

Points to: http://www.wikipasy.pl/$1

WikiPasy is encyclopedia about oldest polish football club - KS Cracovia. Many polish VIPs were Cracovia players, and we host their biographies and newspaper articles about them. Currently in polish version we have 3.400 articles. There are already 50 links to WikiPasy in polish Wikipedia and more could be added, so i think that interwiki links would be useful addon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dinthalion (talk) 6:58, 18 April 2007

As you say, this is a wiki for one particular club, not for the sport as a whole, or even for the sport in Poland. Although there may be a number of articles on pl:wp, is that likely to be true for all wikis? Also, the statistics page shows only 17 users and not a lot of content (estimating about 200 content pages) or edits (estimating about 700 edits so far). I'd be inclined to oppose adding this at this time. ++Lar: t/c 17:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Sciencepedia

closed: not done, available via wikia links Please add [[sciencepedia:NAME]] with http://www.el.science.wikia.com/. Sciencepedia is an encyclopedia simmilar to wikipedia, licensed to GFDL. Thanks.

IonnKorr

Since this is hosted at wikia there is already a shortform, I believe... all wikia wikis have one. So I'd tend to decline this request unless this wiki grows large... (some wikia wikis are in the list) What is the current article count? How many inbound links is it likely to have? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 20:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

It is one of the largest Greek wikis, but you can just use the existing shortcut Wikiasite:el.science:article for this. Angela 20:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Not done ++Lar: t/c 17:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

MyQWiki

closed: Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time Link is:

• [[MyQWiki:]] or
• [[MyQ_Wiki:]]

Points to:

• http://wiki.myquran.org/

MyQWiki is muslim/Islam encyclopedia using bahasa Indonesia

• Some informations about moslem biografy, people, organisations, city, country or other topics
• Some articles are not presentable in the wikipedia (especially Wikipedia Indonesia)
• We also need some articles related to Islam/moslem in wikipedia (both English and Indonesia or other wiki) so that we can link to the specific content. It is a new project, but many new users come and we are working in progress. --Oryza 10:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC+7)

Sorry about the extreme delay in evaluating this one... I had a hard time because I could not coerce the site into showing me special pages in english and babelfisn wasn't too much help since it doesn't do bahasa indonesian, but I gleaned this from the front page: "MyQWiki memiliki 295 artikel dengan 2.191 pengguna terdafta" I am guessing guess that is reporting 295 articles with about 2.191 edits per article. I found this page by accident: http://wiki.myquran.org/index.php/Istimewa:Recentchanges ... it shows no changes at all in the last 7 days, but some if you go farther back. http://wiki.myquran.org/index.php/Istimewa:Statistics if I interpret it right suggests 79 users total. I woild like to see some examples of inbound links to it, and some evidence that it's already used a lot, else my thinking would be that it needs to mature more before I'd support adding the prefix. Also why wouldn't the prefix be Myquran: ??? ++Lar: t/c 10:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Wiili

closed: Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time wiili: -> http://www.wiili.org/index.php/$1 It is the definite indeep wiki about the Wii —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Henke37 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Any idea how many inbound links are likely? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 14:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

If there will be any links about under the hood about the Wii, this wiki is 70 % likely to be the target. It is also very active and will find new research within days.--Henke37 11:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

This is about a linux port of the Wii, not the Wii itself, near as I can tell. Also it's getting less than 10-20 edits a day so I'm not sure I see this as wide enough interest. Oppose adding this at this time. ++Lar: t/c 02:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiCast project

closed:Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time I would like to request that the [[cast:]] prefix be adopted for linking to pages on the WikiCast wiki. http://www.bitshuffle.org/wikicast/Main_Page

WikiCast - The free content broadcast is a project to encourage the development of free content audio progammeing that can be used either on WikiCast's own stream or by other podcasts. WikiCast is also in co-operation with Wiki Campus Radio on Wikiversity. The reason for requesting this interwiki is so that users can link directly to pages on the WikiCast wiki without needing long external links (which could change). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.145.181.189 (talk) 13:35, 13 April 2007

I believe the above was added by the IP that I added the Unsigned for. I could be wrong. I went to the WikiCast site and there appear to be no changes in the last 30 days, not a good sign. I would be inclined not to add this but perhaps, since Wiki Campus Radio is a lot more active, if some examples of where WikiCast articles/content were linked were given, that might clarify how useful it is. ++Lar: t/c 15:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Project Dead - Proposal can be removed.

StealThisWiki

closed:Not done, insufficiently general interest at this time [StealThisWiki] is a collaborative update of Abbie Hoffman's famous Steal This Book. I would like to suggest that the [[stw:]] prefix be assigned for linking to pages in the StealThisWiki project. The site contains large amounts of information on a variety of non-mainstream topics, and would be a great benefit..

Why should we bypass the usual protections from spam for this wiki? How many articles could be really use links from to this wiki? J.smith 15:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Barring other commentary showing consensus the other way, I'd be inclined not to add this. ++Lar: t/c 03:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

FireWiki

closed: Not done, not much content or activity FireWiki is a collaborative encyclopedia written by members of the fire department, and based mainly on detailing with topics about the fire department and tools used by the Fire Department. The wiki covers international, and is mainly in English. I would like to suggest that the [[tfw:]] prefix be assigned for linking to pages in the FireWiki project. Thunderhead 22:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Following the link you gave took me to a malformed page, and when I clicked on Main Page from there, I got this text: "Welcome to FireWiki Meta, the coordination site for FireWiki International. We are currently planning to update this site. Please wait." with no changes to the site in the last 7 days... "please wait" probably is the right approach. I think it may be prudent to wait till this wiki has more content and more inbound links, if that comes to pass, before adding it. ++Lar: t/c 16:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done ++Lar: t/c 16:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

UnknowableWiki

closed: This is just a fan resource, not general interest

It is a fast-growing Harry Potter wiki.

The prefix could be: [[unknowable:Article name]]

Pointing to: http://wiki.unknowableroom.org/$1 /201.51.178.188 16:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

This appears to be a fan fiction resource, rather than a general interest wiki on Potter. So it seems quite narrow in focus. I am not sure I see this as general interest enough. Can some example inbound links be given please, to judge utility? Failing that, I would oppose adding it. ++Lar: t/c 17:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Not done Insufficient general interest, not mature yet, and no followup ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed removals

Accepted

AboutCCC

This wiki is ridiculously low on content. MaxSem 10:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

1 edit in the last 30 days too.[4] I endorce removing this from the interwikimap. J.smith 14:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Last edit 3 months ago, 16 pages in total. Removed. --.anaconda 19:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

FirstWiki

Looks like this wiki's domain name has expired and gone over to a lame domain squatter/search engine. - 68.116.186.134 19:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Removed. --.anaconda 19:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed updates

Accepted

TMBW

This Might Be A Wiki (TMBW) has moved from http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/$1 to http://tmbw.net/wiki/$1. Thanks in advance for the update. -69.122.203.50 17:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Done — Timichal 13:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

We're at "tmbw.net" now, no www, so I'd appreciate if that could be fixed as well. :) Sorry about the confusion. -69.122.203.50 16:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Done - Andre (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

DOI

} Please change http://www.doi.org/$1 to http://dx.doi.org/$1 See for example the first form http://www.doi.org/10.1000/182 is wrong while then second one http://dx.doi.org/10.1000/182 is right. Tizio 13:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Tizio 15:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Rejected

Wikia

closed: not done, breaks links The current interwiki prefix for Wikia is currently to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1. Any links don't work, though, because the c: breaks the link. Could the c: be removed (in other words, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1 )? --Coredesat (en.wp) 09:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

This prefix is intended for links to specific Wikia projects, not www.wikia.com itself. MaxSem 10:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Not done ++Lar: t/c 17:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Troubleshooting

Resolved

Brickwiki link not working on en.wp

closed: Should have been propagated in the April DB push, no problems reported subsequently

Hi, regarding Talk:Interwiki_map#BrickWiki and en:Snot (disambiguation) the Brickwiki link still points to the URL without "title=". Does something else need to be done to get it to work correctly? RoscoHead 19:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Good question, I've previously wondered that myself. Interwiki map pretty clearly shows the change has been made at the source but I'm not sure exactly the process by which the pushes out to the various wikis happens. Barring a more specific answer I'd counsel patience. (per Brion on IRC, it's by running a program to grab the map, plus the internal map (which has the short prefixes and lang stuff and other things), munge them together, save to cache file, and push out to the various servers. This process is only run when a new WMF wiki is created, or once in a while if not...) So, it may take a few months for the change to propagate out. (none of the changes I added recently will get pushed out right away either I guess. ) Hope that helps. As for the specific article I'd suggest using <span> class="plainlinks" for now and the fully qualified URL with a comment that it could be changed later if so desired. On some smaller wikis I frequent I've even created a template that accomplishes that. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 14:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I did fix the specific article... ++Lar: t/c 15:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Done no further reports of trouble suggest this is done after the change made and the April DB push. ++Lar: t/c 12:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

JargonFile interwiki links not working

closed: link changed by Andre, 6 July

The JargonFile: prefix does not work correctly (for instance: JargonFile:magic). It goes to an external server, which always returns the same search page. --cesarb 00:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

http://sunir.org/apps/meta.pl?wiki=JargonFile&redirect=$1 is the current link, but I assume something on sunir.org has been changed to stop it from redirecting properly. Regardless, there's no reason to be going through an intermediary to get to the Jargon File. http://wiki.ursine.ca/ is the real link, correct? I have switched it to that. Andre (talk) 00:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Done (by Andre) unless problems reported, this is closable. ++Lar: t/c 12:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)