Talk:Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests

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Take out your textbooks

A good place for ideas would be to look at introductory textbooks on a variety of subjects, and look for the "standard" image set-ups (for example in physics, chemistry, biology) that are considered valuable educationally.--Pharos 06:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

FLOSS Manuals

[Later note: This is a continuation of the discussion at: Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Requests#Translate_useful_tutorials]

See http://en.flossmanuals.net/about : they are free content manuals for free software. They use a wiki called Twiki, although it's quite unlike MediaWiki. They are working on manuals for things like Inkscape, Audacity, Blender, Gimp - very much the tools we use. I would like to possibly do some kind of collaboration with them, but I haven't thought up the perfect idea yet... --pfctdayelise 00:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

It can be hard to find the graphics manuals there. I found some though:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Gimp/WebHome

http://en.flossmanuals.net/write --Timeshifter 12:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

hmm.. what about something with Wikibooks? I hardly ever venture out that way, but I would think they would be interested with helping out. They're the manual-writing people. They have some stuff on graphic software, including a pretty thorough one on The GIMP, but most could use a lot of work. They even have one started on Inkscape! (well, kinda ;) - Rocket000 23:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Rocket000, for this link:

Wikibooks:wikibooks:Computer software bookshelf#Graphics and video software

I added it to my wikipedia user page list of graphics links.--Timeshifter 12:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

(unindent) The problem with w:WikiBooks, and some of the other English-language w:Wikimedia projects, is the lack of a unified user login and unified watchlist. See Help:Unified login. If this existed, then there would instantly be millions of registered users available to work on Wikibooks. One may ask why has the w:wikimedia commons grown so big without a unified user login and unified watchlist.

That is because the commons is so integral and necessary to wikipedias in all languages. There is such a large pool of users from many languages needing images from the commons that they will edit at the commons even if they are unregistered. Wikibooks is not so urgently needed by such a large pool of users. The hope for Wikibooks lies in the addition of millions of driveby registered users each adding a few sentences here and there at Wikibooks.

I have asked (here: [1], and elsewhere) why subdomains can not be used for all the English wikimedia projects. I have never gotten a reply from anybody with knowledge of the technical side. With unified login we could use our existing registered usernames without having to sign in at each project. I think subdomains would even allow a unified watchlist to exist without much problem.

The various wikimedia project pages could all be redirected to URLs that are subdomains of wikimedia or wikipedia:

commons.wikimedia.org 
wikipedia.wikimedia.org
wikibooks.wikimedia.org
wikinews.wikimedia.org
wikiquote.wikimedia.org
wikisource.wikimedia.org
wikispecies.wikimedia.org
wikitravel.wikimedia.org
wikiversity.wikimedia.org
wiktionary.wikimedia.org

or

commons.wikipedia.org
wikipedia.org
wikibooks.wikipedia.org
wikinews.wikipedia.org
wikiquote.wikipedia.org
wikisource.wikipedia.org
wikispecies.wikipedia.org
wikitravel.wikipedia.org
wikiversity.wikipedia.org
wiktionary.wikipedia.org

Users with the same name (and different email addresses) could be differentiated by a number being automatically added to the end of the duplicate name used outside wikipedia. Timeshifter, Timeshifter2, Timeshifter3, etc.. I am registered at nearly all the wikimedia projects, and with the same email address. So I wouldn't need the number added at the end of the name.

For more info see: Help:Unified login and its talk page. --Timeshifter 03:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Er, indeed...

Rocket000: you are right, Wikibooks is a more natural choice. :) I don't know if they would accept any manuals we might write. I think their policy is that books should be textbooks. --pfctdayelise 08:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, let's see...: "Wikibooks is for textbooks, annotated texts, instructional guides, and manuals. These materials can be used in a traditional classroom, an accredited or respected institution, a home-school environment, as part of a Wikiversity course or for self-learning. As a general rule only instructional books are suitable for inclusion. Most types of books, both fiction and non-fiction, are not allowed on Wikibooks, unless they are instructional."

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/WB:WIW#What_Wikibooks_includes

Looking at the GIMP table of contents:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_GIMP/Contents

I see that it is basically a bunch of articles/tutorials/manuals tied together by a table of contents. So Wikibooks may be one good place to park some how-to stuff. User subpages is another good place. --Timeshifter 12:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

From a very quick look at this, Wikibooks is a very good home for this content. Come on over, or email me with questions! – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 02:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Progress

Thankyou very much to Kaldari, Rocket000 and others who have kept their attention on this page while I have been a bit lax. You guys are great! Expect a burst of attention from me this week. --pfctdayelise 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I have continued to drop more and more links to the resource lists at commons:Category:Maps and commons:Category:Charts. They link to various free resources, tools, software, help, repositories, directories, projects, guides, tutorials, etc.. They also link to various places where people can ask for help:

• Philip Greenspun illustration project. Request creation/improvement of illustrations.
• en:Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve - Can request new graphics, too.
• en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Illustration - Ask project members for help.
• en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Illustration - Ask at this talk page. --Timeshifter 08:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for overseeing this project. Having made my first image charts recently I have further understanding of the need for this project. --Timeshifter 18:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Paying for highly-rated illustrations

This is an interesting model for funding the creation of illustrations:

"Writing for Peanuts and Loving It". By Brian Bergstein. March 24, 2008. Associated Press.

It could be adapted to illustrations. The illustrations that would be rated would come from here possibly: en:Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve. Other sources too. See the list in the previous talk section. --Timeshifter 20:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I found a different link for the Associated Press article. The old link no longer has the article. I updated the link in my previous comment. Here is a working link to find the AP article:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4514057 --Timeshifter 13:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

look like PFCdaylise is working on it, I found this on his user page :User:Pfctdayelise/PGIP ;) 140.122.97.172 13:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

That page was created before I posted my first comment in this thread. I don't believe that page currently discusses a rating system, nor would it be merged with en:Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve. --Timeshifter 19:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Archiving

Should we start archiving past requests that are now part of Round 1 (or declined)? Rocket000 19:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I already created Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests/Fulfilled and Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests/Inappropriate and moved some items there. Did I miss any? --pfctdayelise 02:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Is this appropriate?

I noticed a while ago that the eN stub template for "abortion" was the word "Abortion" in pink. Could an internationalized (IE. Non-words) and neutral (The hard part) image be requested here, or is that "inappropriate" for this purpose? 76.117.247.55

Is this a dead project?

It looks like it. No activity for quite some time. --Kevjonesin (talk) 12:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia has wikipedia:Template:WikiProject status closest I found here at meta-wiki is Template:Closing project proposal. Anyone know of others? --Kevjonesin (talk) 12:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

• http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/715/142/f6c.jpg
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0

<wink> --Kevjonesin (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2015 (UTC)