Talk:Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021
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September 1 - September 30, 2021
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Could use some more information
editSeptember is not far away, and I would like to know more so I can set up a branch of this event on the Simple English Wikipedia. The rules clearly show which articles are eligible but not much else. What do the participants do, and how are their actions counted? What do the organizer and jury members do and what are their responsibilities? Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @Darkfrog24,
- First you need to create a page in project namespace like this page, You can copy the meta wiki page if you want.
- Here the participants will create article according to the rules mentioned.
- The organizers will oversee the overall aspect of competition and coordinate with international team
- The judges will review articles submitted by participants and give points. This requires use Fountain Tool
- You can feel free to ask have any more questions, Regards --MdsShakil (talk) 05:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Fountain
editOkay, I think I've got us squared away in Fountain. Do the contestants enter their work or do the jurors? Or do the contestants put a tag of some kind in their edit summaries or articles? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:56, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- @MdsShakil: or anyone available: I believe I filled out the form in Fountain to create the Simple English Wikipedia's Fountain Page, but I am not sure it worked. Does it require approval from someone else? Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 If you created the page with appropriate information, ask an Simple administrator to approve it. For more information please see Admin approval process --MdsShakil (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I will do just that. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:29, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- And we're up and running! Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Congrats --MdsShakil (talk) 02:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 If you created the page with appropriate information, ask an Simple administrator to approve it. For more information please see Admin approval process --MdsShakil (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Article Title Clarification
editHi @MdsShakil: Shall we write Actress, women Cricketers under the theme of women biographies. Sridhar G (talk) 05:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hello@Sridhar G,
- Actress
- We are not encouraging to create actresses biographies as it is less relevant to our theme this time and enough articles have already been created. But if an actress is significant in a feminist movement or any similar organization, her biography can be added.
- Cricketers
- Biographies of women cricketers can be written as the issue is currently associated with the feminist movement!
- However, give more importance to issues related to feminism than writing a biography. Regards --MdsShakil (talk) 16:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Because this issues rose last time too.Thanks for your clarification. Sridhar G (talk) 09:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Fountain issue
editHi @MdsShakil: ta.fountain doesn't accept expanded article which was expanded on sep 2, 2021. it shows //The article was created at 06/08/2014 5:18 AM// . Please fix this. Thanks Sridhar G (talk) 19:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G: There was some misinformation on the contest rules page. In this edition we will only accept new articles. However, if someone has already (September 1, 2021) expanded, you can accept his article. We've modified the rules page and request you to follow it in all subsequent works. Aft, we apologize for the mistake! By the way, we have already informed AntanO about the matter. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman: Thanks. Sridhar G (talk) 09:04, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G: There was some misinformation on the contest rules page. In this edition we will only accept new articles. However, if someone has already (September 1, 2021) expanded, you can accept his article. We've modified the rules page and request you to follow it in all subsequent works. Aft, we apologize for the mistake! By the way, we have already informed AntanO about the matter. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Barnstars
editWhat would you say that giving Barnstars right now for participants who already created valid (at least) 4 articles or shall we wait until final stage? --AntanO 12:35, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Have you already created Barnstar? --AntanO 12:37, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- @AntanO: Sorry for the late response. All certificates, barnstars, gift vouchers will be issued in phases after the final results are announced. I think we should wait until then. Aishik Rehman (talk) 15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Like --AntanO 00:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- I request a ping when this is ready. I can't wait to reward the participants for all their work. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:40, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Like --AntanO 00:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
An external tool for statistics
editNeechal Toolforge wlwsa2021 tool would help that developed by Neechalkaran --AntanO 00:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- @AntanO and Neechalkaran: Thanks for this tool --MdsShakil (talk) 14:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Comm
editHello ! I created
- that tweet : https://twitter.com/WikiLovesWomen/status/1435595963142492163
- that facebook post : https://www.facebook.com/WikiLovesWomen/posts/4190979747686335
Any suggestions about what I could post about and how?
Fountain error message
editHi all. Does anyone else get the error message "'TypeError: RuleMessages[rule.type] is not a function' while saving the mark for '[article name here]'"? [1] Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Maybe you did not build fountain settings properly. You can ask a simple Sysop to fix the problem --MdsShakil (talk) 08:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please keep the mark open so that everyone can see --MdsShakil (talk) 08:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- "Keep the mark open"? Do you mean you don't want us to mark/judge/grade articles until after September 30? Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 No, I didn't mean it. I mean after reviewing articles whether you are giving marks or not is not seen in Simple Fountain (I can't see) as seen in bn Fountain --MdsShakil (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Better now? @MdsShakil: Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:44, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 No, I didn't mean it. I mean after reviewing articles whether you are giving marks or not is not seen in Simple Fountain (I can't see) as seen in bn Fountain --MdsShakil (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- "Keep the mark open"? Do you mean you don't want us to mark/judge/grade articles until after September 30? Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please keep the mark open so that everyone can see --MdsShakil (talk) 08:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
নিবন্ধ সংশোধনের সুযোগ প্রদান প্রসঙ্গে
editসম্প্রতি আমি এই প্রতিযোগিতার অংশ হিসেবে অসমীয়া উইকিপিডিয়ায় "মধুমিতা ৰাউত" নিবন্ধটি ইংরেজি থেকে অনুবাদ করি। নিবন্ধ জমা দেওয়ার সময় দেখা যায়, নিবন্ধে নির্ধারিত শব্দের চেয়ে ৫টি শব্দ কম, অর্থাৎ ২৯৫টি শব্দ আছে। তবে ফাউন্টেনে তা আটকায়নি। অসমীয়া পর্যালোচক চিরিং চন্দন ও বাবুল বৈশ্য ৫টি শব্দ কম থাকায় নিবন্ধটি গ্রহণ করেনি। প্রথম জন অবশ্য নিবন্ধের একটি অনুচ্ছেদে যান্ত্রিকতা থাকার অভিযোগ করে। গ্রহণ না করার কথা আমার আলাপ পাতায়ও জানায়নি। পরবর্তীতে আমি এই সমস্যা দেখার পর, যান্ত্রিকতা দূর করার পাশাপাশি নিবন্ধটি সম্প্রসারণ করি। এখন তাই ৩০০+ শব্দ রয়েছে। এই বিষয়টি দুজন পর্যালোচকে জানালেও একজন কোনো সাড়া দেননি। অন্যজন অর্থাৎ, বাবুল বৈশ্য তার আলাপ পাতায় জানান যে, "Articles once judged, cannot be reverted." কিন্তু এরকম কোনো নিয়ম আছে বলে তো জানা নেই। বাংলায় আমি দীর্ঘদিন ধরে কাজ করে আসছি। সেখানে যেকোনো প্রতিযোগিতাতেই নিবন্ধ সংশোধনের সুযোগ দেওয়া হয়। চলমান প্রতিযোগিতাতেও তা-ই হচ্ছে। এই বিষয়টি জানানোর পর ওনি বলেছেন, "I have already conveyed my opinion. You may go anywhere to lodge complains against me. I will not talk any more on this matter." তাই আমি এই বিষয়ে আন্তর্জাতিক দলের দৃষ্টি আকর্ষণ করছি। ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 07:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- বিষয়টি নিয়ে আলোচনা Doing... রয়েছে, শ্রীঘ্রই প্রতিক্রিয়া জানানো হবে --MdsShakil (talk) 08:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- It is found that my name along with Chiring Chandan, one of the jury members of WLWSA 2021, Assamese (as) Wikipedia, are mentioned in this message. But this message is probably written in Bengali (I guess) and as we have no concern with this language, would anyone please translate the message into English? Babulbaishya (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Babulbaishya: Recently, as part of this competition, I translated the article “মধুমিতা ৰাউত” on Assamese Wikipedia. At the time of submission of the article, it was found that there were 5 words less ( 295 words) than the number of words specified in this competition. But the fountain did not interrupt at the time of submission. Assamese reviewers Chiring Chandan and Babulbaishya did not accept the article as there were 5 words less. However, the first one complained of having "Machine translation" in a paragraph of the article. None of them even mentioned on my talk page about not accepting the article. When I noticed it in the fountain, I solved all the problems. Now there are 300+ words. Although two reviewers were informed of the correction, the first one did not respond.The other, Babulbaishya, said on his talk page, "Articles once judged, cannot be reverted." But is there any such rule? I have been working in Bangla Wikipedia for a long time. There is an opportunity to correct a article in any competition. The same is happening in the ongoing competition. After reporting this, He said, "I have already conveyed my opinion. You may go anywhere to lodge complains against me. I will not talk any more on this matter." So I'm drawing the attention of the international team to this. ≈ MS Sakib «TalK» 19:42, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- It is found that my name along with Chiring Chandan, one of the jury members of WLWSA 2021, Assamese (as) Wikipedia, are mentioned in this message. But this message is probably written in Bengali (I guess) and as we have no concern with this language, would anyone please translate the message into English? Babulbaishya (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
diifference in marks
editHi @Aishik Rehman and MdsShakil: in ta.wiki there was a difference between number of submitted articles and marks. as of 12-09-2021 we submitted 370 articles in total (rejected articles included) but the tool shows 390 marks. Each article has one mark even two judges accept the same , the tool gives one mark. Let me know the reason. Thanks. Sridhar G (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G This is because multiple jurry member accepted one article. It's not a big problem, it won't affect the results --MdsShakil (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Are jurors allowed to help?
editIf I go into the article and clean it up or fix mistakes, is it still eligible as a contest entry?
On the Simple English Wikipedia, the contestants have been choosing excellent things to write about, but they are all very similar to the Regular English Wikipedia. Am I allowed to go in and finish the translation from regular to simple English? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Yes, you can. We do the same in bengali if necessary --MdsShakil (talk) 18:28, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
More fountain issues.
editWe're having a problem. One of the contestants, @Prajjwal3959: marked some articles with the template but they still haven't shown up in Fountain. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Fountains will not show up until article have been submitted using the Fountain's button. --MdsShakil (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Rejected article has been improved
editOnce an article has been improved, how do I go into Fountain and change its mark? Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24
- MdsShakil (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- When I click on "judge," the name of an unmarked article appears at the top. Clicking on the > in the top left corner only changes it to a downward-facing mark, but nothing else changes. When I hit "skip [to the next article]" in the bottom right corner, it only takes me to unmarked articles. Throughout all of this, most of the screen is full of slowly moving diagonal stripes. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Don't see the list of articles when you click on the icon ( >) on the left corner? --MdsShakil (talk) 16:01, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- The > icon next to an author's name? Yes. But then I don't see any way to change its mark. Clicking on the > to the left of contestant Ferien creates a menu with Ferien's five entered articles, but the only thing to click on is the article names, and that just takes me to Simple to view the article. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Can you email me? --MdsShakil (talk) 05:37, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- The > icon next to an author's name? Yes. But then I don't see any way to change its mark. Clicking on the > to the left of contestant Ferien creates a menu with Ferien's five entered articles, but the only thing to click on is the article names, and that just takes me to Simple to view the article. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Don't see the list of articles when you click on the icon ( >) on the left corner? --MdsShakil (talk) 16:01, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- When I click on "judge," the name of an unmarked article appears at the top. Clicking on the > in the top left corner only changes it to a downward-facing mark, but nothing else changes. When I hit "skip [to the next article]" in the bottom right corner, it only takes me to unmarked articles. Throughout all of this, most of the screen is full of slowly moving diagonal stripes. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:45, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Deadlines for submission and improvement
editI have a contestant on Simple who is putting a lot of work into improving contest entries that were initially marked below-standards. This person wants to know whether a contest entry counts if it is submitted before the end of September 30 but only improved to the point of acceptability sometime after that. I said no, that after September 30, the only prize they get is the satisfaction of improving the article for the readers, but I also told them I'd check over here to be sure. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- MdsShakil Could you please tell me about these? I want to know about it. Thanks! Haoreima (talk) 14:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24, Haoreima please contact me or Aishik Rehman via Email --MdsShakil (talk) 16:25, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
difficulty logging
editThis is Darkfrog. Two users have reported difficulty logging in to Fountain for the Simple English Wikipedia today. Any chance we could get that looked at? _DarkfrogNLI
- @Darkfrog24: Ask all participants to submit articles here that have not yet been submitted. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 04:42, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
WLWSA-2021 Editathon
editI, JyotiPN, a participant of WLWSA-2021 Editathon, have been facing some issues while trying to submit my newly written articles (after 11 pm, on 30th September,2021). The fountain tool is not working properly and showing some unknown errors. Therefore, I am requesting you to kindly resolve my problem as soon as it possible.
Regards
JyotiPN (talk) 18:49, 30 September 2021 (UTC)JyotiPN
- @JyotiPN: Same on bnwiki. Many users are complaining. I think every one are having same problem. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:54, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- @JyotiPN I request you to submit articles here that have not yet been submitted. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 04:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman, thank you,Sir for your immediate response and guidence. summited two of my articles. Regards, -JyotiPN
Unable to submit article
editToday is the last day. For couple of hours i am and many others getting error and unable to submit any article. If this persist and can’t resolve before 23:59 UTC, please consider extending submitting time (NOT article creating time). আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed with আফতাবুজ্জামান- JyotiPN (talk) 19:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)JyotiPN
- I similarly had a problem submitting, "finishing" a first draft of a 45k "translation". As outlined I was unable to log in. As above: I suggest: Article first created until end of day today, to be submitted when the tool works again. --Eptalon (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what i wanted to say. Fine by me. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- I similarly had a problem submitting, "finishing" a first draft of a 45k "translation". As outlined I was unable to log in. As above: I suggest: Article first created until end of day today, to be submitted when the tool works again. --Eptalon (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed with আফতাবুজ্জামান- JyotiPN (talk) 19:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)JyotiPN
I believe Eptalons idea is best. - Darkfrog24NLI Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Tamil community members also faced the issue while trying to submit the newly written articles. Kindly consider to resolve the issue.--கி.மூர்த்தி (talk) 00:39, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Now the tool is not available. --AntanO 02:03, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not 100% sure but this "(Toolforge" Some tools broken by upstream Let's Encrypt certificate changes)" may be the reason. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 02:11, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @AntanO Ask all participants to submit articles here that have not yet been submitted. Aishik Rehman (talk) 04:38, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @JyotiPN, আফতাবুজ্জামান, AntanO, கி.மூர்த்தி, Darkfrog24, Haoreima, Eptalon, and Nayan j Nath: For everyone, The fountain problem has already been solved. You can check --MdsShakil (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but we need to change the tools config (extending submitting time). so, we can submit articles. Right now there is no button to submit. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Tiven2240, Anthere, MdsShakil, and Aishik Rehman: Organiser, please put a formal notice, e.g that you extended the submiting time by 1 day, 2 days and article first created until end of 30 September can be submitted etc. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:09, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @আফতাবুজ্জামান হ্যাঁ, সেটাই করতে হবে তবে এর পূর্বে আন্তর্জাতিক দলের অন্যান সদস্যদের সাথে আলোচনা/যোগাযোগ করা প্রয়োজন। আশা করছি বাংলাদেশ সময়ে আজকে রাতের মধ্যেই কোন সিদ্ধান্ত দেওয়া হবে --MdsShakil (talk) 15:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but we need to change the tools config (extending submitting time). so, we can submit articles. Right now there is no button to submit. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- @JyotiPN, আফতাবুজ্জামান, AntanO, கி.மூர்த்தி, Darkfrog24, Haoreima, Eptalon, and Nayan j Nath: For everyone, The fountain problem has already been solved. You can check --MdsShakil (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Fountain issue has been fixed
edit@JyotiPN, আফতাবুজ্জামান, AntanO, கி.மூர்த்தி, Darkfrog24, Haoreima, Eptalon, and Nayan j Nath: Hello all, issue has been fixed. Please submit all of your articles by tomorrow (3 October). Please note: articles that was created before end of 30 September (UTC) can be submitted only. Aishik Rehman (talk) 16:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
objection raised
editTamil Wikipedia members have put forward a request to the Organisers of the Wiki Loves Women South Asia-2021
The title and purpose of the competition is related to South Asia. (Wiki Loves Women South Asia is an article writing contest to improve gender gap in Wikipedia and create the related articles about South Asian Women) .
But Bengali Wikipedians wrote and allow many feminist articles related to countries other than South Asia.
Dear Organisers of this project,
kindly look in to this subject before announcing the results.--கி.மூர்த்தி (talk) 16:07, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @கி.மூர்த்தி: I am sorry to say, i disagree. Introduction isn't rules. Please read Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021/Rules#Rules of the contest. Rules doesn't say you must create article related to south asia. Rules says: "The article should be within gender discrimination, feminism, women's empowerment and related issues." Rules should be changed before the contest, not after the contest. Otherwise there is no point having a rules. It would be really bad decision if organisers decide to change the rule now, 6 days after finishing the contest. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:23, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, rules doesn't say must create article related to south asia. Vice versa the same rule do not say "create article related to non south asia". I think we shouldn't have highlighted the theme This year WLW South Asia will focus on women's empowerment in the South Asian context. Actually, it is not clear to the direction as it conflicts like theme vs rule vs project. BTW, no need to change the rule or result. However, personally I feel that I am not a good organizer and jury to this contest, especially to the ta.wiki community. --AntanO 18:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- Imagine you worked hard for one month, you did not violate any contest rule, but after 6-7 days of contest ending, organizer told you we will penalize you for something which isn't even in the rule. It is not right, I obiasly will feel bad. If this objection was raised even during the contest, i would have understand. Agree that "no need to change the rule or result", not just for bnwiki, for any wiki as it is not ok to change the rule after end of any contest. The way forward is not penalizing participant at the end of contest for something which isn't even in the rules. The way forward is that, in the future make sure we have more clear rules. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- I remember asking about this when setting up the page for the Simple English Wikipedia, but I can't find the talk page where I asked right now. The issue arose: "Wait, so I could even write about an English suffragette?" "Yes, you can write about feminism in England if you want. It is for south Asians to read, but it doesn't have to be about south Asia." In fact, we had contestants write about English feminists and our best choice was probably simple:First-wave feminism, though most of our entries were about Asia in some way.
- If next year's contest has a rule saying "Only write about south Asian subjects," I don't object. But the contestants on Simple followed the "written for South Asians, not necessarily about South Asians" rule. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- Imagine you worked hard for one month, you did not violate any contest rule, but after 6-7 days of contest ending, organizer told you we will penalize you for something which isn't even in the rule. It is not right, I obiasly will feel bad. If this objection was raised even during the contest, i would have understand. Agree that "no need to change the rule or result", not just for bnwiki, for any wiki as it is not ok to change the rule after end of any contest. The way forward is not penalizing participant at the end of contest for something which isn't even in the rules. The way forward is that, in the future make sure we have more clear rules. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, rules doesn't say must create article related to south asia. Vice versa the same rule do not say "create article related to non south asia". I think we shouldn't have highlighted the theme This year WLW South Asia will focus on women's empowerment in the South Asian context. Actually, it is not clear to the direction as it conflicts like theme vs rule vs project. BTW, no need to change the rule or result. However, personally I feel that I am not a good organizer and jury to this contest, especially to the ta.wiki community. --AntanO 18:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
...award?
editI just finished judging the last of the entries for the Simple English Wikipedia. I now see that the "Award" button works! So do I just number the top finishers 1, 2, 3 by number of successful articles made or something else? I am asking because, while Fountain lets me judge articles, it does not let me go back and change things later. I want to get it right the first time.
Also, will we be pinged when the participant barnstars are ready? Everyone at Simple worked so hard and I am looking forward to recognizing them for it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:41, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Darkfrog24, sorry for the delay reply. barnstars file is ready. Please create Barnster using this file and Provide legitimate competitors. you can use this structure if you interested, we are using it in Bengali --MdsShakil (talk) 16:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:16, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
WLWSA-2021 Newsletter #5
editDear organizer(s), thank you for helping us to conduct the contest so smoothly. We assume that all the articles submitted for the contest have already been reviewed by our meritorious jury members. So we request you to submit your local wiki results here by October 30. Please use the appropriate table from here to submit the results.
If you have any suggestions or thoughts, feel free to reach out the organizing team via emailing @here or discuss on the Meta-wiki talk page
Regards,
Wiki Loves Women Team 01:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC) originally posted at each project talk pageChanging marks in Fountain
editA few of the contestants on SEWP have made last-minute improvements to some of their entries. I would like to change the marks in fountain from "not accepted" to "accepted." I do not see any way in Fountain to do this. Clicking on the little down arrow in the top left corner of the screen does not do anything for me. I must report that when marking an article initially, I always get an error message, but the system still accepts the mark. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 can you please say an Simple Sysop for add me as a jury member, I want to take a closer look --MdsShakil (talk) 15:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- I believe the article simple:Ima Keithel has been improved enough to pass, so this breaks the tie for third place. I will name the winners today. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, it looks like Fountain doesn't allow me to simply type in the names of the winners... How do you recommend I award the prizes? Right now we have a clear winner for first, a clear winner for second, and two names for third, but one of those two people improved an article and broke the tie. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 If you believe it has been improved enough, accept and count it. I think simple fountain face server site error, i trying to contact Le Loy, but he is not available right now. You can also putup a note about this in simple project talk page --MdsShakil (talk) 18:13, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- I can accept it in my own mind, but I can't accept it through Fountain right now or name the winners. I know you and Aishik Rehman want the winners named no later than tomorrow, October 30. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:49, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 If you believe it has been improved enough, accept and count it. I think simple fountain face server site error, i trying to contact Le Loy, but he is not available right now. You can also putup a note about this in simple project talk page --MdsShakil (talk) 18:13, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, it looks like Fountain doesn't allow me to simply type in the names of the winners... How do you recommend I award the prizes? Right now we have a clear winner for first, a clear winner for second, and two names for third, but one of those two people improved an article and broke the tie. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- I believe the article simple:Ima Keithel has been improved enough to pass, so this breaks the tie for third place. I will name the winners today. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
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@Darkfrog24 I know about the fountain error and as I said above, you can count this. If the fountain is fixed, then it can be added. --MdsShakil (talk) 20:04, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll hold off on naming the winners until tomorrow, but I'll name them no later than tomorrow. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24: Oh my god! You missed that! simple:Ima Keithel wasn't accepted either in the Fountain or through just counting. Haoreima (talk) 13:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- I apologize for missing this message. My computer was broken for about a week. Darkfrog24 (talk) 05:15, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24: Oh! I am sorry! Haoreima (talk) 10:21, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
- I apologize for missing this message. My computer was broken for about a week. Darkfrog24 (talk) 05:15, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24: Oh my god! You missed that! simple:Ima Keithel wasn't accepted either in the Fountain or through just counting. Haoreima (talk) 13:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll hold off on naming the winners until tomorrow, but I'll name them no later than tomorrow. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Awards and barnstars
editWhen would the barnstars and awards be sent to the winners of the contest and by whom ? These details were missing in the information provided earlier 2405:204:5706:6F1:14B8:D6AD:5FD1:2E9E 13:58, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
When would the barnstars and awards be sent to the winners of the contest and by whom ? These details were missing in the information provided earlier ? ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 14:04, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- I too would like to be notified of this so I can reward our intrepid participants. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Dubious article counts
editWe could see some editor's article count is more than 100, 200, 300. The contest was a held in a timeline for a month and it is obviously impossible for any individual to create somany articles in such time period. If it is manchine translated, quality need to be checked thoroughly, which is again doubtfull in that timeline. If they had kept the articles prepared sighting the compition would be announced, then it is not at all a good Wiki spirit and it may be conflict of interest also. Organisers need to look in to this seriously. --Vikas Hegde (talk) 09:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- This does sound like it deserves a look. However, it is possible for someone fluent in two languages to translate ten articles each day if they are not too long. It may just be someone who was willing to dedicate a lot of time to the contest. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:53, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for expressing your concern. I think it's possible for an editor to create 300+ articles in a month. (If those are translated) Each article has reviewed by one or multiple reviewers, (who are experienced users of the community) so I think there is no problem with quality. -- MdsShakil (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
What is meant by Native Wikipedia
edit@MdsShakil, Aishik Rehman, and Darkfrog24: When I try to fill up the form, I saw a detail named "Native Wikipedia" ("Home Wikipedia")! Is it the Wikipedia where I am native/mostly active or is it the Wikipedia where I took part of the very contest? I am always active in Manipuri Wikipedia (AKA. Meitei wikipedia) but I took part of the contest in Simple English Wikipedia! So, which one shall I write in the form? Haoreima (talk) 13:14, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima Enter the name of the project you participated --MdsShakil (talk) 13:35, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Barnstars and banners
edit@MdsShakil and Aishik Rehman: I have had a contestant ask when the barnstars will be awarded. Should I go ahead and make some myself instead?
Also, I would like to award barnstars to everyone who created articles for the contest, even if they were not eligible articles (i.e. someone who writes five articles but only earns two points gets a participant star). Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I've made a serviceable participation barnstar, but I think the winner barnstar should be a little fancier. Perhaps a crown on the lady's head: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Darkfrog24/Sandbox&oldid=22403660 Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 I apologize for being too late to answer you. Contestants can be rewarded with any Barnstar you make. However, we have created a SAMPLE BARNSTAR that is better to use (You can also customize it as you like). --Aishik Rehman (talk) 15:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- @ঈশান জ্যোতি বৰা, Nayan j Nath, KartikMistry, Dhanalakshmi .K. T, Arpitha05, Meenakshi nandhini, Sreenandhini, Sandesh9822, مومن خان ڏاهري, Ulubatli Hasan, Babitha Shetty, Kavitha G. Kana, AntanO, Ssgapu22, Rockpeterson, Sandesh9822, and R Ashwani Banjan Murmu: You are also requested to follow the message. Translate the barnstar into your own language and post it on the contestants' talk page(s). Thank you all.Aishik Rehman (talk) 16:12, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman:, Done. Thanks. Hasan (talk) 08:29, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Translated and awarded as per Barnstars for participants creating at least 4 articles. --AntanO 21:22, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, one of the paritcipants said that the barnstar "is not closed" and that this is causing problems. Do we have any fixes? Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, just figured out you can add two </div> tags and it should work. Elytrian (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, one of the paritcipants said that the barnstar "is not closed" and that this is causing problems. Do we have any fixes? Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- @ঈশান জ্যোতি বৰা, Nayan j Nath, KartikMistry, Dhanalakshmi .K. T, Arpitha05, Meenakshi nandhini, Sreenandhini, Sandesh9822, مومن خان ڏاهري, Ulubatli Hasan, Babitha Shetty, Kavitha G. Kana, AntanO, Ssgapu22, Rockpeterson, Sandesh9822, and R Ashwani Banjan Murmu: You are also requested to follow the message. Translate the barnstar into your own language and post it on the contestants' talk page(s). Thank you all.Aishik Rehman (talk) 16:12, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 I apologize for being too late to answer you. Contestants can be rewarded with any Barnstar you make. However, we have created a SAMPLE BARNSTAR that is better to use (You can also customize it as you like). --Aishik Rehman (talk) 15:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
About local winner's prizes
editI just want to know that, have you made any arrangements to reward the winners? -Nayan j Nath (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Nayan j Nath I'm sorry for the unexpected delay. The details will be shared soon, thank you. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 06:39, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman and MdsShakil: Sridhar G (talk) 01:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G I'll give you more details about the awards soon. You'll have to wait a little longer, I'm sorry for that. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 06:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Even i have the same query. I am winner from Kannada wikipedia and did not recieve any Barnstar or award so far - ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 05:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ Please contact the local organizers (@Arpitha05 and Dhanalakshmi .K. T:) for any questions related to Barnstar. I'll give you more details about the other awards soon. You'll have to wait a little longer, I'm sorry for that. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 06:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman : Thanks for the clarifications regarding the Barnstar as well. I have contacted @Dhanalakshmi .K. T earlier. As she was not having more information on this, i have contacted the global talk page here. I would contact @Arpitha05 now. ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 07:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ Please contact the local organizers (@Arpitha05 and Dhanalakshmi .K. T:) for any questions related to Barnstar. I'll give you more details about the other awards soon. You'll have to wait a little longer, I'm sorry for that. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 06:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Aishik Rehman, MdsShakil, Tiven2240, and Anthere:
- @ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ, Sridhar G, and Nayan j Nath: The Wikimedia Foundation is delaying the delivery of the Grants due to some legal issues, but it has already been resolved, so we hope to be able to send the awards soon. Sorry For this unwanted delay -- MdsShakil (talk) 05:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Further, i would like to make sure that i am not directly involved with the grant in any way --MdsShakil (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @MdsShakil : Ok, Thanks a lot for the reply and clarification regarding this. ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 07:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, months have been passed there is no announcement for the rewards, whats going on?
- // but it has already been resolved// is there any other issues? Sridhar G (talk) 14:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G As far I know, your gift voucher has already been sent via your e-mail address. Please check your email+spam folder also. MdsShakil (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- I +1 the thoughts of @Sridhar G and @Vikashegde. Did not receive any gift voucher so far. I have checked all my emails and spam folder. Have just received certificate of participation in spam folder last month. ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ I have need to check all details, currently I am on Eid vacation that's why I do not have all resources. I will be able to inform you details after the vacation, I will also contact Aishik Rehman. —MdsShakil (talk) 16:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MdsShakil Sure. Thanks for the updates ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 09:31, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ I have need to check all details, currently I am on Eid vacation that's why I do not have all resources. I will be able to inform you details after the vacation, I will also contact Aishik Rehman. —MdsShakil (talk) 16:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, i have checked all the folders, i haven't received any gift voucher so far. Would you tell me the exact date , sender details.All of us didn't receive any mails. So , kindly send it one more time. Because Amazon gift card's validity is one year.
- Thanks Sridhar G (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- // I will be able to inform you details after the vacation//Hi, is there any update. Sridhar G (talk) 14:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- I +1 the thoughts of @Sridhar G and @Vikashegde. Did not receive any gift voucher so far. I have checked all my emails and spam folder. Have just received certificate of participation in spam folder last month. ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G As far I know, your gift voucher has already been sent via your e-mail address. Please check your email+spam folder also. MdsShakil (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Further, i would like to make sure that i am not directly involved with the grant in any way --MdsShakil (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
@Sridhar G, ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ, Vikashegde We emailed you to the address you gave us, i can't tell you why you didn't get it. Those was done on 11 April. I forwarded those mail via wikimail. Can you please check your mail box. Thanks —MdsShakil (talk) 14:47, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, i have redeemed the prize amount through the mail (new one) you sent. Thanks Sridhar G (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Mdsshakil, thanks for the reply and email. I have received the voucher via new email sent by you today and redeemed it ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 17:56, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
No rewards so far
editIts already been 10 months and the winners have not received awards. Can organisers explain? -Vikas Hegde (talk) 14:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Vikashegde, We already sent awards in last month —MdsShakil (talk) 15:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- hi @MdsShakil : I am from Kannada Wikipedia. Even I did not get any awards so far. Have just received certificate of participation! ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 16:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi MdsShakil, I haven't received any voucher/reward so far through email or physically. I got only e-certificate.--Vikas Hegde (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Is the award just a certificate or is there anything else also in it?-Pavanaja (talk) 04:31, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Pavanaja, Barnstars and vouchers were promised as prizes.--Vikas Hegde (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- User:Balu1967
- I am from tamil Wikipedia. Even I did not get any awards so far. --Balu1967 (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MdsShakil: Could you clarify to Balu1967? Thanks. --AntanO 04:42, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- @AntanO, Balu1967 His voucher was sent at the same time as the others on 11 April. —MdsShakil (talk) 05:06, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, would you send them (@Balu1967@கி.மூர்த்தி) an e- mail like me. Sridhar G (talk) 05:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G done for கி.மூர்த்தி. Unfortunately Balu1967 wikimail is currently off, so I can't able to send him any mail. —MdsShakil (talk) 07:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll convey this to him. Sridhar G (talk) 09:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Sridhar G done for கி.மூர்த்தி. Unfortunately Balu1967 wikimail is currently off, so I can't able to send him any mail. —MdsShakil (talk) 07:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, would you send them (@Balu1967@கி.மூர்த்தி) an e- mail like me. Sridhar G (talk) 05:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- @AntanO, Balu1967 His voucher was sent at the same time as the others on 11 April. —MdsShakil (talk) 05:06, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ MdsShakil balansalem1967@gmail.com is my mail id. Pl. Send Gift Vouchers to the same--Balu1967 (talk) 05:49, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- உங்களது விக்கி மின்னஞ்சல் தேர்வினையும் ஆன் செய்து வைத்துக் கொள்ளவும். Sridhar G (talk) 07:16, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Balu1967 I sent the mail with the giftcode again from an alternate gmail account. Please check the mailbox. I request you to update as soon as possible. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 13:53, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MdsShakil: Could you clarify to Balu1967? Thanks. --AntanO 04:42, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Clarification of all ambiguities regarding Gift Vouchers
edit@Balu1967, Vikashegde, Sridhar G, ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ and கி.மூர்த்தி: Hello everyone, we sent the gift vouchers to most of the Indian contestants on April 11 this year. You are complaining that you have not received it for whatever reason. I guess the mail got posted in your spam or junk mailbox which got deleted after some time. I am quite surprised to see your messages one after another. Anyway, Shakil forwarded the mails to you guys, hopefully the problem is resolved. I hope you will be more aware of these issues in the future, otherwise this kind of repeated email forwarding destroys the security of gift vouchers. Thank you all. -- Aishik Rehman (talk) 13:48, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- @User:Aishik Rehman Thank u sir. Now I got gift voucher and redeemed--Balu1967 (talk) 05:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I have received the Gift voucher when it was sent 2nd time. Thanks for the follow up. ಪ್ರಶಸ್ತಿ (talk) 05:55, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I did not get certificate yet !
editHello everyone. It's nearly one year and I did not get any certificate for my article. May I know when I will get it. Please let me know,it's kind of frustrating.Thanks Arian Writing (talk) 03:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Resolved -- Aishik Rehman (talk)