Talk:Wikimedia CEE Spring 2018

Hi! There are some ethnic groups in Ukraine (Krymchaks and Crimean Karaites). But there are not languages community's in the Wikimedia. Can you make the special nomination of these ethnoses? (I made list of articles about them).--Arxivist (talk) 10:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

@Arxivist: Wouldn't it be easier to add sections to the Ukranian list that have articles about Krymchaks and Crimean Karaites? @Antanana: in CC. Braveheart (talk) 09:17, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

The organizer in ruwiki

Hello! I want to become a regional organizer of the project in Russian Wikipedia. I begin to deal with the design of the project. Do I have to add myself somewhere? --OlegCinema (talk) 11:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

You're on the team! Congratulations. JukoFF (talk) 12:44, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

"The time allocated for running scripts has expired."

Hi, What does this error message mean? I've encountered it in the Hungarian article list. Alensha (talk) 20:41, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Means that the list is probably way too long for the script to get every item from Wikidata in the allocated time. Or that Wikidata is having issues, because the Hungarian list looks quite ok :-) Braveheart (talk) 20:49, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

We have similar issues in almost all language article lists even when we make ten categories each containing ten articles. Article Lists by Country template works on a separate page but is not compatible in our list page. May be problem with bringing information from Wikidata. -Beko (talk) 10:19, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Maybe it makes sense to write to the Wikidata guys. This problem goes from year to year. True, I do not know where specifically, but the forum is probably they have. JukoFF (talk) 12:31, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers, this year was the first year I encountered this error message, but looks like it has been sorted out. I'm glad I did not have to make our list even shorter as I've trimmed it down already from 150+ articles to 110 :) Alensha (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

The problem of the lack of articles for writing in the contest in Russian Wikipedia

Statistiс Russian CCE Spring 2018

country / remained articles	start	finish
Albania	41	1
Armenia	12	0
Austria	12	0
Azerbaijan	5	1
Bashkortostan	7	0
Belarus	0	0
Bosnia and Herzegovina	45	2
Bulgaria	14	1
Georgia	13	0
Greece	30	0
Hungary	81	6
Kazakhstan	28	8
Kosovo	35	13
Crimean Tatar	15	0
Latvia	4	0
Lithuania	10	0
Macedonia	60	5
Poland	14	0
Romanian	42	0
Republika Srpska	67	10
Serbia	7	1
Slovakia	14	0
Turkey	72	0
Ukraine	0	0
Croatia	31	0
Erzya	14	0
Esperantujo	27	12
Estonia	18 +70 +44	2 +10 +2
Total for writing articles in 2018	832	74

At the time of the end of the spring marathon 2017 in the Russian Wikipedia, there were less than 100 articles left for all the national lists taken together. To date, the situation has not improved much. It can be expanded national lists, because without a large number of written articles in Russian Wikipedia, the overall statistic of the competition will suffer.

Any thoughts on this matter are welcome! JukoFF (talk) 12:17, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Definitely something I'm taking to account for the Austrian list - I don't know who well written the articles are in Russian, maybe focussing on expanding short articles would make sense? Braveheart (talk) 12:21, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

This year, we added the revision of existing articles. But the criteria for creating articles in Russian Wikipedia are quite tough and created articles of high quality from the very beginning. Plus, I know from experience, no one will finalize existing articles, it's not interesting to do in the context of contests for writing articles. JukoFF (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, although I'm pretty sure that ru:Церковь Ам-Штайнхоф could be expanded :-)

Other communities also allow any article written about other CEE communities as long as they use a template to mark them as part of the contest. Maybe that would make it easier? Braveheart (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

I think, that it is not a big problem. Almost all of the new lists contain articles without Russian interwiki links: Austria (20 articles), Belarus (2), Croatia (90), Georgia (8), Hungary (33), Poland (16), Sorbian (3), Tatarstan (1), Turkey (26), Ukraine (>5). At this moment we have at least 204 articles to create for the Russian Wikipedia. I hope that the other local organizers will also add to their lists articles without Russian interwiki links, maybe we can ask them about it. --Andreykor (talk) 15:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

This was taken into consideration when I compiled the new Hungarian list. Congrats to Russian Wikipedia, you guys are doing a great job! Alensha (talk) 21:26, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Some of the wikis...

...still don't have article lists... Alensha (talk) 21:28, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out, we are already working with local organizers to fix that soon. --Papuass (talk) 22:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

In true CEE style the lists will be brand new and shiny tomorrow at the latest :-) Braveheart (talk) 22:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Questions to the organizers of the contest

1. Will there be statistics like during previous marathons? JukoFF (talk) 14:26, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

2. Will the newly created articles within the marathon be highlighted in national lists, as it was in the years ahead? JukoFF (talk) 14:26, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

I would like to know the same! That makes huge difference. We need that, it is very helpful!--Fraxinus (talk) 14:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@JukoFF and Fraxinus: Yes, you can find the current version of the full stats at pl:Wikipedysta:Masti/CEE Spring 2018. I've also asked the owner of Botik if he can run him again this year :-) Best, Braveheart (talk) 02:42, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer!--Fraxinus (talk) 20:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Good news. I managed to agree with the author of last year's bot, the owner of the bot promised to run statistics from April 2. JukoFF (talk) 21:10, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that is truly good news! Thanks for your effort!-Zygimantus (talk) 06:43, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

I am very happy to hear that!--Fraxinus (talk) 10:43, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

@Fraxinus and JukoFF: The stats currently only show 5 and 7 articles for Croatian and Russian - is that correct or is there something missing? Most likely the template hasn't been set? Best, Braveheart (talk) 01:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Croatia right now has 8 articles.--Fraxinus (talk) 20:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Next year contest

Hi, everybody! In CEE meeting, there was some initial discussions about making life easier for local organizers to do the judging part of contest. One idea was to have a unified tool. It kind of is on my to-do-list, but it would be good to gather information on what rules participating communities will have (what should be counted for which countries; of course - more unified rules would be better :) ). I understand it's only November, but faster we start, faster we could get it done (or more time will have for coding the tool). It could be something like this (article registration is done here). Then we also won't need those stats bots, as all data will be here. In Lviv, we also talked about modernizing article suggestion lists. That also is on the radar :) Thoughts? @Spiritia, Papuass, Philip Kopetzky, Magalia, Masti, Strainu, and Wittylama: pinging international organizers Edgars2007 (talk) 10:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Edgars2007, thanks for reaching out. I think a good starting point would be this year's rules, as very likely most countries will keep them unchanged. Please note that the international organizers don't have much info on the local rules except that page, as most of the work is done in local Wikis in their native language.

With regards to the article lists, we're considering a few options which we'll explore further after we submit this year's report, but again, I'm pretty sure local organizers will still have much freedom in generating the lists. We'll let you know of any updates as soon as we have them.--Strainu (talk) 11:02, 21 November 2018 (UTC)