User:Fram/Sandbox

Preparation of a longer reply on [1]

First, note that I have had plenty of chance to reply from the Signpost writer, so this longer reply is just to get some more space and to reply to the latest entries, not in any way a complaint about the report writer.

Anonymous compalint

"It is difficult and embarrassing as a man to come to grips with being sexually harassed, as the culture has the expectation that you should ignore this kind of behavior and that it should have no effect on you.

A troll on an offsite forum posted a graphic written depiction of myself engaged in sexual activity with another editor. Fram repeatedly posted a link to this depiction on Wikipedia, even after it was revision deleted. A regular editor would likely have been blocked for this behavior, but since Fram was a powerful, influential administrator, ArbCom just shrugged and ignored it. Fram's behavior is a large reason why I barely ever edit Wikipedia anymore.

I can only imagine what he's done to female editors on Wikipedia.

— Anonymous, June 2019"

To start with the last line, what an utter non sequitur. The editor who wrote this complaint has access to all my edits, and if I did anything similar to what is described here towards female editors, it would long have been unearthed and displayed. Of course, the problem is that I didn't do this with this editor either. What in reality happened was that an admin used their tools to rev-del a link to an off-wiki site where their admin actions were criticized. In a reply to these descriptions, some commenter made a crude joke (the kind which wouldn't be accepted on-wiki), but this was not the reason the link was made. Worse, when confronted with this, the admin claimed that this wasn't true, and that the off-wiki page did not contain any criticism of their adminning. I then linked to (once only, IIRC) and quoted the actual post: these quotes, made in ArbCom case pages, have not been removed, as they were not BLP violations or otherwise revdelable. The arb case ended without any FoF about me, while the admin involved was admonished for his behaviour.

"since Fram was a powerful, influential administrator, ArbCom just shrugged and ignored it. " is a bit bizarre coming from an admin with probably at that time more onwiki "friends" than I ever had. Perhaps Arbcom just "shrugged and ignored it" because it was not so vile as you try to make it here, but a small but correct piece of evidence about your behaviour? Fram (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

BU Rob13 complaint

Following a contentious dispute over a recent ArbCom circular, Fram went to my user talk page and continued attacking me in rather personal terms. Very shortly after, he showed up at an unrelated ArbCom case and obstructed my ability to work as an arbitrator by reverting an edit asking a question of a party, while further attacking me in the edit summary. I felt extremely uncomfortable with what felt like harassment. It felt that he was signaling that I would be watched everywhere, that there would be no boundaries in his continued personal attacks. It made me feel unsafe. His actions, and the Arbitration Committee's failure to act promptly in condemning them, were the largest immediate factor that led to my resignation. That’s a major reason why I no longer believe the current Arbitration Committee can handle harassment, in any form. The Committee wasn't able to handle harassment directed at an arbitrator that occurred on a fully protected arbitration case page. If they can't handle that, how can they handle harassment in general? — BU Rob13, via email, June 2019

This is about one discussion, [2]. My first post is about all arbs, my second post is about all arbs, and so on. Only the last post, in reply to a block threat by BU Rob, was a reply about him personally. And why did he want me blocked? Because I reverted him at an Arb Case I was already involved in (the Rama case), here [3]. "The Committee wasn't able to handle harassment directed at an arbitrator that occurred on a fully protected arbitration case page." Perhaps because you could, just like everybody else, raise the issue at WP:ANI, just like I said at your talk page? You decided not to use the standard processes in our community (of which you were at the time an arb and admin), but instead tried to get your way informally among your fellow arbs. That this failed is probably because you were wrong here (since you had no business using that page to ask questions at that time, when no one else could do this or could respond), not because the arbs trembled before me and rather sacrificed you than taking action against me. These complaints are really ascribing power and influence to me that I don't have nor want. Fram (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)