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Having problems with ConfirmEdit Extension.

Resolved. OP fixed their config file

Hello.

I felt that I should install a MediaWiKi Instance on my own server, and seem to have succeeded so far. But, I'm having a problem with the ConfirmEdit Extension. I also run in to some barriers because I installed everything from Debian 11 packages, which means that my MediaWiKi version is 1.35.

The reason I wanted to set up the extension is the fact that its FancyCaptcha feature should slow down brute-force attacks against my home server. So, these are my relevant configs:

$wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL;

wfLoadExtensions( ['ConfirmEdit', 'ConfirmEdit/FancyCaptcha'] );

$wgCaptchaClass = 'FancyCaptcha'; 
$wgCaptchaDirectory = '/var/lib/mediawiki/Captcha';
$wgCaptchaDirectoryLevels = 0;
$wgCaptchaSecret = '...';

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['sendemail'] = false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badloginperuser'] = true; 
 
$wgCaptchaBadLoginAttempts = 3;
$wgCaptchaBadLoginExpiration = 300; // 300 seconds = 5 minutes $wgCaptchaBadLoginPerUserAttempts = 5;
$wgCaptchaBadLoginPerUserExpiration = 600; // 600 seconds = 10 minutes

Also, I did run the Python script, and populated the correct directory with captcha Images.

The problem is that when I test my setup by making 3 invalid logins (into my own server), I get an error message stating that an Underflow took place, and no further details. This is the point where the Captcha should actually display.

The server log file...

/var/log/apache2/error.log

Shows no corresponding error message.

There is a strong possibility that I'm just doing something wrong, which experienced admins would not do. But I need somebody at this point to give me a hint as to what that could be.

Thank you in advance, Dirk DirkMittler (talk) 02:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Just a heads up that while some users here may be technical enough to help with your question and MediaWiki software was developed for Wikimedia sites, Meta-Wiki is mostly about the larger Wikimedia movement, so fine-grained debugging questions may not get answers here. You might have better luck at mw:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Not an expert, but you have $wgCaptchaBadLoginPerUserExpiration set but have $wgCaptchaBadLoginPerUserAttempts commented out. This could lead to an underflow as presumably the code tests for an integer value but finds a null or something similarly undefined. MarcGarver (talk) 08:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

• Due to a missing CRLF on that line — xaosflux ^Talk 09:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is every possibility that a CRLF became missing somewhere, due to the way I copied and pasted my config. There will be a Linux-style newline character in my copy. However, I did find the problem. It was this line:

  :::*:$wgCaptchaDirectory = '/var/lib/mediawiki/Captcha';
  :::*:
  

  The name of the directory that contains my captchas is named 'Captchas', not 'Captcha'. Once I corrected that line, everything works. I have my Captchas when they are supposed to appear.

  Dirk DirkMittler (talk) 17:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: — xaosflux ^Talk 18:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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I have some questions 1how come Wikipedia is single page? is the money from Google and Wikipedia enterprize and others not enough for 2 page entries 2why isn't Wikipedia decentralised yet 3why isnt trust and safety intervening there are exterimist admins and stewards , people in janny roles for example the farsi wikipedia telegram is literally not allowing any kind of speech around iranian regime Baratiiman (talk) 15:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

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Illogical , it wouldn't be a fraction cost of the current centralized wiki Baratiiman (talk) 18:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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