ESEAP Hub/Meetings/12 December 2020

ESEAP Virtual General Meeting # 4

December 12, 2020 (Saturday) 07:00 UTC - 08:45 UTC

Moderator: Butch

Participants

Attendees:

Amir Aharoni, Languages Team WMF & Volunteer, Language Committee
Kaarel Vaidla, Movement Strategy Process Architect
Liam Wyatt, WikiCite Project
Jan Wohlgemuth, Language Committee
Tanveer Hasan, Community Resources Team
Sakti Pramudya, Partnerships, Southeast Asia
Richard (US)
Butch
Gnangarra
Jojit
Vanj
Irvin
Alex
William
Johnny
Anthony
Pru
Biyanto
Hillun
Ramzy
Bel
Imelda
Gu
Taufik
Nor Arifah
Wafiq
Zaw

Notes

Language inclusion

This will allow a dialogue between ESEAP stakeholders with the Wikimedia Language Committee, WMF Language Engineering, WikiCite most of whom are based west of the ESEAP zone to discuss the following matters.

Projects in incubator

Gnangarra outlined several issues for the Noongarpedia project and speakers of Nyungar https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Keny_mia
Anthony spoke of Wiktionary Bikol (Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Bikol)
Amirs guide - https://aharoni.wordpress.com/2020/10/23/amir-aharonis-quasi-pro-tips-for-translating-the-software-that-powers-wikipedia-2020-edition/
How many translation (percentage) need to comply in the translatewiki, to decide whether a language edition is ready for the approval
- No percentage. It’s based more on continuous activity on translate-wiki https://translatewiki.net/
Irvin: Inconsistency in requirements, meet them, then they get changed
https://github.com/Helsinki-NLP/Opus-MT machine translator on wmf https://opusmt.wmflabs.org/, they provide Bicol Central translation.
Small to medium scale ESEAP language wikis (including those with little or no activity, or no local administrator activity)
Ongoing efforts to improve the process, with domain being earlier in the steps also
- A talk about suggestions to improve the Incubator technology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdyzrDzD0qg
- Technical description of the proposal: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228745
- The different parts of the community agree to this proposal: Language committee, Small Wiki Monitoring Team (SWMT), Incubator administrators. It needs engineers who are experts in Wikimedia server configuration to implement it (mostly the Release Engineering and Site Reliability teams in the WMF, but there are also other people who could do it).
Strategic recommendation intiative #14 is closely connected to the requests to improve the Incubator (the “new language versions” part.
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Transition/List_of_Initiatives
- Full text from the recommendation: a) Tools to connect cross-project and cross-language functionalities to provide an enhanced experience of the knowledge contained in the Wikimedia ecosystem for a particular interest, informational need, or inquiry.
- b) Clear pathways for advancing new wiki proposals (including new language versions) and for reusing community-developed software features on them.

Technical challenges

obtaining sources, importing/ exporting citations/ references from one project to another, human resource
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/10/22/wikicite-awards-23-grants-escholarships-to-improve-open-citations/
Knowledge in the object kind of object, partnership and program that is happening…
Oldest museum in NZ WIR(WikiData) funded by Wikicite grant digitization and connect of their natural collections, Indigenous, Military...goal of building reference information.
Alex Lum from WMAu working on improving the quality of the code in en.wp relating to citation templates and languager to better incorporate journals
Tanveer: Grants to support emerging communities, grant applications opening very soon, rapid grants always open,
Try connecting to an APG organisation
Grant ideas
Community capacity building
Amir: 1 of the 45 SI that will be very helpful #14 - as discussed earlier

Movement Strategy

Q: how can we bring these initiatives forward off the back burner to support ESEAP? A (Karel):

Reports for recent discussion due shortly, what is important to support globally… Jan / Feb 2021 further development.
Several discussion on hub, governance
Funding for initiatives to support under represented groups
Skill development
regional & more local level can take some of this on - smaller scale
Prioritization doesn’t excluded other efforts on SI topics, even regional, local pilots, learning and skill sharing experiences to better develop these globally priorities
Bring forward ideas from ESEAP of what we see can be developed...impact to staying true to knowledge equity there is a case. It all comes down to energy to drive SI and it can get support.
Build regional teams through ESEAP to discuss, find solutions, and drive ways forward
Next step, with regional coordination, funding hub, creating hub, development how can we do this… even before global council. No definition, just some principles, what is it's function, how can it help, knowledge available, developing revenue generation. What added value can be brought to the hub… what can be returned to wider movement, similar for thematic hubs function, value, need, in a position to try out different formats, not sensible to make multiple hubs creating the same wheel. Where funding can come from -- WMF or Affiliates… need to fund well, innovation takes human resources. Wait and see what can be done. Share experiences.
Talk how to get started
Perhaps form an interim core to go now
Points of cooperation, partnerships within ESEAP community and of relevant partners.

Wikipedia 20

Series of events, & Thematic topics
Series of broadcasts
Move virtual events
WMAU thinking virtual meeting, happy to join a ESEAP regional meeting
Social media blitz
Pre-recorded talk, greetings, thank you etc.
Wikipedia weekly YouTube channel to broadcast these message has a good audience, borrow for an existing event like WW channel means you can broadcast 1 video live into multiple places yt, twitter, fb, simultaneously more convenient
Ph having a quiz show for teachers focus on bikol language and culture, in person celebration to attract new members. Adhering to protocols
Wikiconcert, cultural events from each country.
Asia Pacific Anchored Event: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki_20_Countdown#Asia-Pacific_anchor_event_for_Jan_16_or_17