Meta:Requests for adminship/Camouflaged Mirage

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a closed Meta-Wiki request. Please do not modify it.

Camouflaged Mirage

Camouflaged Mirage (talk • contribs • deleted user contributions • logs • block log • abuse log • CentralAuth • stalktoy) Bureaucrats: user rights management.

Ending 14 February 2020 12:35 (UTC)
Hello, I am with Meta wiki for close to 2 years. In this period of time, I had been doing mainly maintenance work, such as tagging pages for deletion, and up to now I have around 600 deleted edits. I also frequently rollback vandals and report them for blocking. In addition, I had been involving in patrolling of edits here, and had around 3600 patrols and requesting for autopatrol rights for various users. For sysop experience, I was a sysop for Chinese Wikiversity for 260 days leaving due to personal issues. I did close to 700 sysop actions within the 260+ days ranging from deletion, protection as well as some minor Abuse Filter modifications as well as Mediawiki editing. I am also a Global Rollbacker with close to 600 edits in various small wikis or wikis in which I don't speak their language.

I know that meta sysop is one of the most critical areas of WMF wikis operation, as Meta hosts the critical spam/title blacklists as well as the various global filters. What I can offer is the normal janitoral areas, and I will take exceptional caution not to touch these unless I am confident and I will seek advice before proceeding. I expect I will be using the tools to block, protect, delete as well as grant userrights. After having more confident in the rest of the toolkit, I will then hope to help out in other aspects. I will take care not to break anything and consult if needed.

Lastly, as of activity. I am of the view that tools are not hats and if I am inactive for a period of time, I will ask to remove my flag. I hope for support in this. Thanks for the community to consider. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Experienced in LTA cases, language cases, crosswiki matters, meta matters, I was just thinking, its about time Camouflaged Mirage/Cohaf become admin on Meta.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 12:49, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Friendly & per above. Minorax (talk) 13:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Trusted, knowledgeable, decent, calm, experienced, knows enough about meta affairs and when and how to use admin tools. So, why not? Keep up the good works! Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 13:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Camouflaged Mirage is one of the most level-headed and professional users I have ever met. He is experienced in dealing with LTAs, spam and vandalism, and has a good understanding of local and global policies. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 13:25, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Why not? -- CptViraj (📧) 14:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support no reason to say no. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs)
Support, but it took some time to figure out who are you! Stryn (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Even though I saw this coming from a mile away, I was very happy to see this RfA this morning. Camouflaged Mirage is competent and takes a common sense approach that I appreciate. ~riley (talk) 18:20, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Rs chen 7754 19:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Valid reason to request, no red flags, trusted. --Kostas20142 (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strongest possible support, per Aldnonymous, Tulsi, Jianhui67 and Riley. Yes! Valid use case, they will be quite useful. —Sgd. Hasley 23:40, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support and a very strong one. Very active and experienced user.--BRP^ever 23:43, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support active and competent user. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:44, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Chinese Wikiversity, compared to Wikipedia, is such a small community, and I suppose adminship on zhwikiversity has little influence on the candidate's experience; his contribs to that community after coming back this month are restricted to welcoming newcomers and archiving Vlg pump. Experience has little to do with length of adminship -- there have been admins on zhwiki editing every a couple of months to keep "active" and their hat from being scrapped. For activity: Cohaf left zhwiki and zhwikiversity in Sept. w/o a single word and left WP:DC behind despite he was one of the judges, before restarting at Meta and simple WP. Who knows if he leaves Meta one day without a msg to others? I don't have need to type more since my Oppose has no impact on this process. Cohaf, if you ARE elected, 苟富贵勿相忘. If not, 请好自为之. --Super Wang hates PC _{You hate, too?} 08:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to be clear, I am just saying I have experience with the tools with the zhwikiversity sysop-ship. As of why I left without a single word, I didn't. I did voluntarily and immediately resign all my rights in zhwp and zhwikiversity, former is patroller and rollbacker and later is sysopship. As said in my nomination, I will not hold on to rights, if I forsee I will be busy or other personal stuffs crop up, I will give up the mop on my own. For DC (which is like WikiCup, I did inform the judges with the intention of not been active in the last few days of the competition in a Judges only Group on Telegram.
- All in all, I forsee this opposition even before this nomination. I will reiterate my promise to the community, if elected, I will make sure that if I am going to a hiatus I will ask to be removed of rights and will not wait for confirmation signings. This is the promise I give to all.
- And for this particular user, they tried to reach out to me on the last few days before I decided to leave, this is their message. I really don't know what transpired for them to be so hostile to me where the rest of the community left nice messages to me on my talkpages here and on zh:User_talk:Camouflaged_Mirage--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's my fault to bring private gossips here, but I won't change my vote, and I know my vote counts nothing to Cohaf's election. Thanks. --Super Wang hates PC _{You hate, too?} 08:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Super Wang: Noting your opposition, do you have any concerns that are relevant to Wikimedia Meta aside from "what if he leaves" (a concern we share for any admin)? ~riley (talk) 09:29, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose：I am an administrator on the zhwiki. Something I must say. Candidates had repeatedly edited other people ’s messages in order to delete other people ’s messages. Candidate's editing is highly controversial. see:[1]、[2]、[3]。--蟲蟲飛♡♡→♡℃※Talk 09:09, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I won't repeat all I had said here. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:12, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @蟲蟲飛: The concerns you have linked are from another project and over a year ago; can you please connect the dots on how this has relevance to his candidancy on Meta. ~riley (talk) 09:29, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the first oppose by User:Super Wang doesn't make any sense, just because he decide to retire from the project and no longer write any content you oppose? it doesn't make any sense since he still understood what sysop button represents and know how it works. Now for the second opposition by User:蟲蟲飛 is even more confusing, the fact you can't even understand why you are rejected to become OTRS member already said everything, your link even point out everybody don't agree with you, and what makes it worse, even you are in the wrong camouflaged mirage still apologize for it. Those link instead proving camouflaged mirage mistake, it proves your mistake instead. The irony goes far as you actually gave rather "strong" oppose, did you even realize why he change your edits? at the end of the line you said 我和Cohaf剛剛在TG羣裏溝通了，Cohaf不否認那段話是他說的，並澄清那是RFA討論，並指其他用戶誤會了他。我對此謹此致歉 is this also a lie? since you actually gave "strong" oppose, this means you still have a grudge and doesn't let it go.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 09:25, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- - I just want to point out two things. One is that candidate has repeatedly deleted other people's messages; the second is that candidate has hurt me by making false statements, and the candidate has also certified this and apologized to me. As the candidate was renamed, some links failed. There are many things about deleting messages, such as[4]、[5]--蟲蟲飛♡♡→♡℃※Talk 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - I recalled we have many talkpage discussions with this, some of which is liked by them. I am not sure what this constant opening of closed cases lead to. For movement of comments, I responded at OTRS also. For your 2 diffs, 1st one is when you want to change a comment someone responded to, you need to strike rather than just change. For second, if you duplicate vote, you don't use the deltalk template. These are clear zhwp policies. I will no longer reply again, thank you.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:03, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - according to zhwp policies, no one is allowed to delete or edit other users' messages and no one is allowed to hurt others by making false statements.--蟲蟲飛♡♡→♡℃※Talk 10:10, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        Please know that this wiki is Meta-Wiki, not Chinese Wikipedia, and thus Chinese Wikipedia's rule does not apply on this wiki. — regards, Revi 19:02, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- For the sake of politeness, No comment. Otherwise I'd simply ignore your ping. Thank you and leave me alone. I think people have rights to support or oppose, so "makes no sense" also makes no sense to me. --Super Wang hates PC _{You hate, too?} 09:42, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment ：I think that if an user's edit is extremely controversial, he should not be an administrator.--蟲蟲飛♡♡→♡℃※Talk 10:02, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely Support.--Borschts (talk) 10:19, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Comment: It has been not so long when Camouflaged Mirage choose to come back on December. I would like to suggest he re-familiar with the community before choosing to re-take the hat, since the 2-month gap objectively exists. --5LZ 13:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Renamed user 9ff13960de57f6ee9b1a65311efbb0be:You mean “weak”? —— Eric Liu_{（留言．百科用戶頁）} 13:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Trusted user. No matter what he did before, I think he can be a good admin and behave well.--Rowingbohe♬(Talk/My work) 13:27, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Competent and trusted user. Thanks for offering to help. Ahmad^talk 22:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. CM has my full support. They'll be an excellent admin. Hiàn (talk) 23:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Trusted, friendly and experienced. Keep it up. --Wright Streetdeck 03:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Kind and capable editor, also experienced. --Royal Patrol _Vikarna 04:56, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support capable user, active in admin areas on Meta. – Ajraddatz (talk) 05:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Veracious (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Trustworthy user, but please, don’t suddenly “disappear” again, just like what you’ve done before on zhwiki. —— Eric Liu_{（留言．百科用戶頁）} 13:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- As a response to the above concerns of inactivity, I will add that I will ensure sufficient activity. I will also add in a so called recall which rather than the meta requirements of 10 logged actions / 6 months. I will reduce it to 3 months. Other provisions in the activity recall will still apply. I hope that will allay some of the fears. I am sorry I did suddenly disappear for around 2 months. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:17, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - That shouldn't be necessary. This is a volunteer role and Meta already has quite strict activity standards. If you end up getting adminship and immediately disappearing, there is really no downside to the project, but every potential upside if you do stick around and do good work. Shouldn't be a big concern IMO. – Ajraddatz (talk) 15:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Trusted user. --Jimmyshjj • ☎️ • 📧 14:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Sotiale (talk) 02:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Defender (talk) 17:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -FASTILY 21:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Can't fully trust. 轻语者 (talk) 10:19, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done; 90% (²⁷/₃₀) —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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