Meta talk:Translation administrators

Need for local policy

Now we have this Translation administrators right in this meta wiki, I would like to see a policy about granting this permission, should it be temporary or permanent, do we need a voting or not? Mardetanha ^talk 14:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Might as well start the discussion here. I'm going to suggest that we can grant it on a permanent or temporary basis, at the discretion of the bureaucrat. Of course, this is a discussion so I'm open to other suggestions - if we want voting what requirements etc. As stated on the main page, crats should also be able to remove this right. The Helpful One 14:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed I think we don't need much bureaucracy for this right. Most translation administrator flags will be self-granted for sysops, for the others I suppose it will be mostly permanent but we'll see how it goes. Nemo 14:15, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd say to just grant it to the known translators without much noise and bureaucracy upon formal or informal request. If someone is trusted and asks for the flag, so just grant it. Just my opinion about this. I doubt that we will reject many requests anyway, and if so those will mostly be quite clear decisions. I think that bureaucrat judgement should work here. -Barras talk 14:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I support the supposed-to-be-status-quo described on this talk page's main page: It should be that sysops can grant themselves translationadmin status to themselves if needed; and bureaucrats can grant t-a status to any other users upon request. Bureaucrats should also be able to remove t-a status from everyone. cf bugzilla:37198. --MF-W 20:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Purpose

Is this right for anyone willing to help with marking pages for translation, the Translate extension, etc. or just for users who need it for something specific (e.g., translations of fundraisers, Wikidata-related pages, etc.)? πr² (t • c) 01:25, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I think it would be quite abusive to say it should only be given to people who work in a specific area where the Translate extension is used. While of course these users are those to whom the right will be most useful/necessary, any "random" sysop can - after he has hopefully read the documentation so nothing will break - assign himself this status to help with marking pages for translation (e.g. in order to mark for translation an uncontroversial change like a typo fix in one of the pages of "specific areas"); and consequently I think also non-sysops who are active around pages using the Translate extension - or who would like to help to migrate random pages to using it etc. etc. can also request t-a status. --MF-W 02:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

The page says what are the requirements to get the right: «if they are willing to help other users or need it and they know what to do». So yes, of course using the right is a required scope to get it... I don't quite get the point. --Nemo 20:29, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Time and approval

Absent a min/max time a request should run for grant this right I suggest that RfTransAdm should run for at least three days and the user should get simple majority for promotion. Best regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

It was left intentionally vague to avoid losing time over details and leave bureaucrats the freedom to do as they saw fit. I didn't follow all the requests for this right, maybe you did? You or another bureaucrat can just incorporate the precedents/most sensible proposal in the text, I suppose. Then we can later either discuss it if someone disagrees or approve it as policy if everyone agrees. --Nemo 15:48, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for bot status/FuzzyBot

Your input would be appreciated. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 14:02, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Translation-related stuff to be deleted in Wikispecies. Help is needed!

@Kaganer, ZI Jony, and Samuele2002: it seems that Wikispecies' administrators are unable to delete this Arabic-related translation stuff. See wikispecies:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. Administrators' comments are here: Wikispecies:Category talk:Wikispecies/ar and here: Wikispecies:Wikispecies:Administrators'_Noticeboard#translation_admin. Thanks in advance!--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Done someone deleted. Sorry for disturbing!--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Request for renaming of protected page

Can someone help fix the name of the page per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:User_groups ? thank you. Anthere (talk)

Weird bug

We faced a curious bug this afternoon.

I wanted to show an example of how to add the translate tags (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ISA_Tool/Manual), and I faced a bug that refers that displayed « Invalid value for parameter mcgroup »

Also, in spite of two translate items created and marked, the translation units were empty.

User:Mohammed_Abdulai_(WMDE) is reporting the same thing on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Mohammed_Abdulai_(WMDE)/sandbox/1

Any idea ? User:Amire80, User:DerHexer, User:Herbythyme, User:Martin Urbanec

Anthere (talk) 18:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Inactivity

Should inactive TAs have their rights removed? Some TAs have been inactive for a period of time, longest is ~9 years. While this is a low level right, policy & use of the tool has changed quite a bit since it was introduced at least a decade ago and marking pages for content now using the "old" way may cause issues that might go unseen for a period of time. I'm thinking of 2 years of total inactivity and the user can regain their access through the normal RfTA procedure. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 12:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

•  Support That makes sense. -- Pols12 (talk) 16:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
•  Support -- Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 17:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
•  Support if I'm not mistaken we are removing TA from users who get their admin permissions revoked due to inactivity – doesn't really make sense to have no inactivity criteria for users who are just TA. --Johannnes89 (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Minorax, I tend to  Support this but I have an observation on the side of activity. How many TA logs would determine that a TA is actually active and what do you think should be the bare minimum? _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 06:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

  The proposal says „2 years of total inactivity“ which includes both edits and logs on meta (and doesn't even look for actual TA activity, just activity in general). Johannnes89 (talk) 08:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Johannnes89: Two years seems too long. I'm inclined to  Support one year but if I see we have already reached a two-year consensus, okay to me. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 07:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

•  Support. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, this is an automated list of users with translation admin bit set. Since there is consensus to remove this flag from those who have 2 year total inactivity, I am going to process this list accordingly and remove the flag in case of no activity. --M/ (talk) 11:44, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Can someone please add a section to the page, explaining the new inactivity removal? TenWhile6 20:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Done, please cross check. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 01:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Seems good to me. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 01:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Can I also suggest this to be taken up when reviewing normal desysop (inactivity) every Apr & Oct. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 01:16, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

+1. This will streamline the process. _signed, Aafi ^(talk) 07:13, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Can you restore Slaporte (WMF)'s right since we don't really meddle with user rights of staff account. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 02:16, 13 October 2024 (UTC)