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submitted verification final decision

This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code jv (SIL, Glottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Javanese Language name in English
Language name Basa Jawa Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33549 - item has currently the following values:
 Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL jv.wikibooks.org langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name Wikibooks "Wikibooks" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikibooks talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.
  • Number of speakers: 80–100 million total (including second language speakers)
  • Locations spoken: Java, Suriname and New Caledonia

Arguments in favour

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  1. Support Support This language has a rich written history spanning from 804 AD and many, many native speakers. Therefore this language deserves a wikibooks domain. Meursault2004 08:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support around 70% of indonesian people can speak javanese. Winana 19:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support Language with old written tradition Kneiphof 12:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support a "classical" literary language, hence a good plan. --ARBE0 16:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support Same as Kneiphof Azmi1995 06:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support Will be useful for everyone, especially Javanese language also well know in overseas sucha as Netherlands and Suriname --Andri.h 04:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support Good idea. --Jeroen 02:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support As Jeroen --ArttuS 12:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support Per Meursault2004. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 09:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support Badly needed to preserve, for the benefit of recent and future generation.Pras 13:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support Interesting classics language, I support this. TracySurya 00:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support Per Andri.h, it's used in multiple countries such as Suriname, Netherland, Malaysia, and Indonesia. Veracious (talk) 07:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support i see how successful Javanese wikipedia is 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against

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  1. Oppose Oppose No activity --OosWesThoesBes 06:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    That is not true. Meursault2004 23:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see Shanels comment above: If the community is still interested, please edit the test project. If not already done so, please translate the necessary localization files. It is not active. --OosWesThoesBes 05:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The interface is fully translated. Meursault2004 12:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Oppose Oppose No activity and no translations since May (= conditionally approval). SPQRobin 12:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Oppose It is not a suitable to have a Wikibooks project in Javanese. --Doostdar (talk) 13:54, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion

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Question: Why 2 Javanese Wikipedias? Robin Hood 1212 14:25, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you're asking about Javanese-Banyumasan, the contributors of that project feels that their language differs from the standard Javanese. It needs a proper linguist to really tell the difference and assign them a separate language code, but as for now, they don't have their own language code yet, so they use "map-bms". There are some intricacies with Javanese language, and I'm planning to talk about it in Wikimania HK 2013. ✒ Bennylin 14:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Localisation update

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The localisation of Javanese is one of the requirement for approval. Currently the statistics show 35.08% 0.35% 18.79% 0.10%. The first three should be at 100%. GerardM 20:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The core messages have been fully translated. Meursault2004 12:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have been watching your progress with a lot of satisfaction .. It will really make a big difference not only for Wikibooks but also for Commons :) GerardM 21:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and possibly also OmegaWiki in future! Meursault2004 10:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am very interested in volunteering for this Wikipedia. How may I do it?

  • Currently 97.56% of the MediaWiki messages and 59.59% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Currently 94.83% of the MediaWiki messages and 72.66% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 22:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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