Wikimedia Meta-Wiki

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Canadian French

< Requests for new languages
​
submitted verification final decision

This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

According to the policy: "The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language."
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code fr-ca (SIL, Glottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Canadian French Language name in English
Language name français canadien Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q1450506 - item has currently the following values:
 Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL fr-ca.wikipedia.org langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name Wikipédia français canadien "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone North América/Montréal "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

edit

The French Canadian community is close to 10 million people. We do understand French speakers from France, but as American English evolve in a different way of English from Britain, the French Canadians speak quite a different French. As well, our references and our culture is dramatically different and a Wikipedia in French Canadians will allow us to express our difference.

Thanks,

Sign your request by ending your statement with: --Fic5801 (talk) 20:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

edit
  • But as American English has evolved in a different way than British English, but shared the same Wikis, so shall Canadian French share the same Wikis as French French.--Prosfilaes (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the umptiest time: no. Just no. No separate Wikipedias for British, Irish, American, Canadian, Indian, Australian, South African, ... English. No separate Wikipedias for European, Mexican, and South American Spanish. No separate Wikipedias for European and Brazilian Portuguese. No separate Wikipedias for Dutch and Flemish. No separate Wikipedias for German from Germany, Switzerland and Austria. No separate Wikipedias for Romanian and Moldovan. No separate Wikipedias for Swiss and Italian German. No separate Wikipedias for whatever slightly different national standard of the same language. So again: no separate Wikipedias for metropolitan, Belgian, Swiss and Canadian French. How difficult can it be? Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 16:41, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Canadian French is a dialect of the French language. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Samogitian's ISO 639-3 code is bat-smg, which is no different to fr-ca. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 12:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Samogitian's ISO 639-3 code is sgs. bat-smg is an obsolete code used by us, and is not and never was an ISO 639-3 code.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay so I guess I don't know the language well... SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dialect editions of Wikipedia (or any project) are banned under current guidelines Dronebogus (talk) 12:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retrieved from "https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Canadian_French&oldid=27553210"