Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Gęlþaska
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This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: No ISO code. This is an extinct language with very few attested words. It's OK to write Wikipedia articles in any language to document it, or to add content in it to Wikisource, Wiktionary, or Wikidata, but not to create a whole Wikipedia in it.
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
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| Language code | (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
| Language name | Crimean Gothic | Language name in English |
| Language name | Gęlþaska | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
| Language Wikidata item | Q36211 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
| Directionality | ltr | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
| Site URL | .wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
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| Project name | Wikjpėdjȧ | "Wikipedia" in your language |
| Project namespace | usually the same as the project name | |
| Project talk namespace | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) | |
| Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
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| Project logo | File:... | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). |
| Default project timezone | South America/Goiânia | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
| Additional namespaces | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". | |
| Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
Proposal
editThis article seeks to document the last dialect of Crimean Gothic, the name of the language used is "Gęlþaska Rėⱬda" in its dialect, "Gupáska", which comes from the city of "Gupitárbj" now located in Crimea, in the town of Mangup, which was the capital of the Crimean Goths, the dialect belonging to the Gothic nobility of the city, the language after 1780, became of liturgical use and transmitted from father to son or from grandfather to grandson, after the great diaspora promoted by the Russian empire, After the conquest of the Crimean Peninsula, there was a long migration through central Europe and then, in the 19th century, there was a migration to Brazil, a small family that had enormous purchasing power and became coffee barons, The last speaker was born in 1865 and died in 1936. After 85 years, one of the descendants of the last speaker decided to revive the language. Today it is used as a liturgical language, and two alphabets have been developed, one an adaptation of the Latin alphabet and the other the "Gupáska" alphabet.
Gęlþaska is the name of the native language in which the Crimean Goths referred to themselves, the language is currently used as a language of religious use, it is currently in a state of danger of extinction, the language left the state of extinct language, it was resurrected after 85 years after being replaced by the German language, but several familiar practices of Orthodox Christianity have also been lost, but they reflect a heavy influence, In the search to rescue the tradition and the original identity that makes the most sense, the language is from the noble Gothic families who lived in Doros, the other variants, Eclectic Gothic based on Classical Gothic became extinct, and the communal language of the people became extinct, and other variants as well, this project aims to preserve and document this language, so that future generations have access to knowledge.
Discussion
edit@Maurikiȯ Maurikjȧ: Unfortunatelly Crimean Gothic doesn't yet have its own ISO code, means that you can't start such an Incubator test project, do you have ideas on requesting one for it? (a code you proposed, iso639-3:gel, is for ut-Ma'in in Nigeria). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Anyway, got: already exists, why don't you contribute Gęlþaska contents within that wiki instead? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Because Gothic and Crimean Gothic aren't the same language; they are at best as closely related as Latin and Italian.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the whole proposal is a hoax. According to linguistic literature listed in the English language Wikipedia article on the subject, Crimean Gothic was already extinct by the late 18th century. The alleged emigrant variety claimed to be used in Brasil by the proponent has not until now been documented in any descriptive work. The remnants of older Crimean Gothic mentioned in linguistic literature are not sufficient to reconstruct the language system as a whole, so a revival of authentic Crimean Gothic is impossible. Of course, there is well documented ancient Biblical Gothic which already has a Wikipedia of its own. Any other kind of Gothic Wikipedia is simply impossible due to lack of data. --2A02:3032:20B:3E1:AD65:1768:377E:9F01 04:55, 13 January 2024 (UTC)