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Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hanja 3

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submitted verification final decision

This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

The policy is: "The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language." The request didn't make a clear case that Hanja is sufficiently unique as a current, living written language. Modern Korean texts occasionally use Hanja in specific cases, and that is also the practice in the current Korean Wikipedia, so a separate Wikipedia is not necessary.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ko-kore (SIL, Glottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Hanja Language name in English
Language name 韓國語(國漢文) Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q485619 - item has currently the following values: Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL ko-kore.wikipedia.org langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name 위키百科 "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace 위키百科 usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace 위키百科討論 "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Asia/Seoul "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

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This was proposed previously but closed, with the reason cited "'Hanja' is not a separate language. As the Korean language today is written with mostly Hangul characters and a bit of Hanja, it makes no sense to create a Hanja-only wiki." However, this wikipedia will be written in Korean Mixed Script not Hanja and the reason for the wikipedia not being created because it is not a separate language doesn't make sense as the Mongolian Traditional Script Wikipedia was approved while it is clearly not a separate language. Also, compared to a population 10 million mongols, there are 50 million people in Korea and most of them can read hanja especially those in academia, and this excludes Chinese and Japanese foreign learners of Korean. In the previous request most people were in favor of its creation and the only strong argument against it was that it was not a separate language, but since the precedent of the Traditional Mongolian Script wiki has been set, this should no longer be a requirement. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Josh1897 (talk) 30 October 2022, 22:46 (UTC)

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