Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hassaniya
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This language has been verified as eligible. The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert. If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval. |
- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What | Value | Example / Explanation |
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Language code | mey (SIL, Glottolog) | A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... |
Language name | Hassaniya | Language name in English |
Language name | الحسانية | Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... |
Language Wikidata item | Q56231 - item has currently the following values:
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Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. |
Directionality | RTL | Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? |
Site URL | mey.wikipedia.org | langcode.wikiproject.org |
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Project name | ويكيبيديا | "Wikipedia" in your language |
Project namespace | usually the same as the project name | |
Project talk namespace | "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) | |
Enable uploads | no | Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons. |
Optional settings | ||
Project logo | This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation). | |
Default project timezone | Africa/Nouakchott, Africa/El Aaiun | "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones) |
Additional namespaces | For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". | |
Additional settings | Anything else that should be set | |
Proposal
editHassaniya is a variant of Arabic spoken by around five million people in Mauritania, Western Sahara, northern Mali/Azawad, southern Morocco, eastern Algeria and communities in Senegal, Spain (Canary Islands and Basque Country) and abroad. Egyptian, Moroccan, Algerian and Tunisian variants are already recognised by Wikimedia and even have their own Wikis, so I'd like to do the same for Hassaniya since I consider it has value on its own (Hassaniya has a distinct oral literature and history independent from Modern Standard Arabic and I'd like to create a Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wiktionary in Hassaniya to promote and encourage the written digital preservation of our heritage through a respected source).
As per the concerns Arab nationalists have, I haven't seen much editing on Mauritanian or Sahrawi related articles that don't end up in stubs or intense political arguments. I think that creating a Hassaniya one will encourage us to write down our history and literature, as several initiatives to promote and preserve our culture exist on Facebook. Moreover, the language is distinct enough from Modern Standard Arabic even if still mutually intelligible at a basic level, it gets more separate thanks to a strong Zenaga and Wolof influence. There are grammar books and dictionaries produced by both Mauritanian/Sahrawi and foreign linguists.
In conclusion, this Wikipedia would protect a special dialect with a rich oral tradition that's even UNESCO-recognised, especially when the language is at risk in Moroccan-controlled Western Sahara due to settler colonialism. Having the history, language and culture of our land in an easily accessible website such as Wikipedia, apart from promoting talking about more "serious" or academic content in Hassaniya, will allow the Hassaniya diaspora to be able to reconnect with their language, culture and roots while allowing uneducated people who tend to have a smaller understanding of Hassaniya to find information in their language (with the possibility of adding audio readings of the articles for further accessibility). It will take time to build it to be reliable but I believe in my community's ability to at least create articles from the list of articles every Wikipedia should have together with more Hassaniya-focused ones. --Tidjani Saleh (talk) 14:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Awesome. Should be eligible due to its ISO 639-3 code.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC).
- Support Sahrawi people also may get their own wiki. Пан Хаунд (talk) 09:10, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Very much needed. I see no reason why the request should remain idle. Ylmarien (talk) 14:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Strong oppose--Fenikals (talk) 10:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose --أحمد الغرباوي (talk) 13:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose no books, newspaper or magazine in these dialect, it only spoken.--🇵🇸 حبيشانtalk 13:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Some relevant publications in Hassaniya:
- - First published novel in Hassaniya: امروگ الحرف (from the 19th century!) (link)
- - The Little Prince in Hassaniya (الامير الصغير), published in Morocco (from 2017) (link)
- – Official government translation of the 1959 Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Mauritania into Hassaniya, translated from French by Ahmed Wahhab Ould Cheiger (one of the writers of the Constitution's original text) in order to allow Mauritanians to properly understand their constitution. (from 1961) (link)
- Arabic Wikipedia itself has an article for Hassaniya poetry (ar:شعر حساني) which also collects the rich tradition of Hassaniya literature that has developed independently from Standard Arabic (which Hassaniya speakers also master), with its own complexly developed genres and rules. ولد الصالح (talk) 13:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose --Mohammed Qays (talk) 10:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose أبو هشام (talk) 10:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose per حبيشان. كريم رائد (talk) 10:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Ethnologue (https://www.ethnologue.com/language/mey/) catalog the language as Institutional and there are existing Literature, Radio, Dictionary, Grammar, Text. --151.95.216.228 16:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)