Talk:Wikimedia LGBT/Wiki Loves Pride Featured Picture drive 2017

Discussions prior to 2017 can be found at Talk:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2016.

Schedule

The grant money has been successfully transferred as of the end of January 2017. The remaining work of writing posts for the 36 target projects and then re-requesting the central notice should complete in February 2017. --Fæ (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Limits on volunteer availability has shifted the schedule. The launch is now planned for May, pending agreement of the central notice. --Fæ (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Pre-notifying project embassies

The requirement for all projects to be contacted in advance of a central notice being approved is composed of an English post to go to all Embassies for projects listed at Wikidata:Q3925302. This requirement was unplanned as it is not a normal requirement for the majority of Central notices, such as POTY or WLM projects, and consequently has resulted in a couple of extra months delay to the competition launch. --Fæ (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Generating a list of embassies is more complex than it seems at first. To get around this, a Wikidata report has been produced, see report of Wikipedia embassies where FPC noticeboard exist.

This is a list of 31 embassies. There could be several reasons for the difference, however it seems reasonable to take this report as the definitive list. --Fæ (talk) 13:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Pre-notification text

== Wiki Loves Pride featured picture drive ==
[[File:Men kissing in IKEA.jpg|right|250px]]
Comments and feedback on the planned international LGBT+ [[m:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017|Wiki Loves Pride featured picture drive]] are welcome on the discussion page, see [[m:Talk:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017|link]].

The competition encourages high quality photographs from Pride events and other LGBT+ cultural related images to be released to Wikimedia Commons. The goal is to see a jump in the numbers of LGBT+ cultural related photographs nominated for Featured Picture status on all Wikimedia projects.

Help is needed to prepare a banner in your language! See [[:m:Grants:Project/Rapid/LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017/Banners|banner translations]].

Thank you! --~~~~

For right to left languages, <div class="mw-content-ltr"></div> should work as a wrapper, best to use a stand alone editor first and stick to notice without an image to illustrate. --Fæ (talk) 13:28, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Posts progress

Lang	Embassy	FPC noticeboard	Status
ar	ar: ويكيبيديا:سفارة	ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات الصور المختارة	POSTED Arabic
ba	ba:Википедия:Вәкиллек	Википедия:Аҙналағы рәсем/Тәҡдим	POSTED Bashkir
bar	bar:Wikipedia:Botschofd	Wikipedia:Kandidatn fia Berige Buida	POSTED Bavarian
ckb	ckb: ویکیپیدیا:بالیۆزخانەی ناوخۆ	ویکیپیدیا:کاندیداکانی وێنەی ھەڵبژێردراو	POSTED Central Kurdish
de	de:Wikipedia:Botschaft	Wikipedia:Kandidaten für exzellente Bilder	POSTED German
en	Wikipedia:Embassy	en:Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates	POSTED English
es	es:Wikipedia:Embajadas	Wikipedia:Candidatos a recursos destacados	POSTED Spanish
fa	fa: ویکی‌پدیا:سفارت‌خانه	ویکی‌پدیا:گزیدن نگاره برگزیده	POSTED Persian
gl	gl:Wikipedia:Embaixada	Wikipedia:Imaxe da semana/Propostas	POSTED Galacian
he	he: ויקיפדיה:שגרירות	ויקיפדיה:תמונה מומלצת/הוספה למומלצות/דיונים	POSTED Hebrew
hi	hi:विकिपीडिया:दूतावास	विकिपीडिया:मुखपृष्ठ निर्वाचित चित्र/उम्मीदवार	POSTED Hindi
hu	hu:Wikipédia:Nagykövetség	Wikipédia:Javaslatok kiemelt képekre	POSTED Hungarian
id	id:Wikipedia:Kedutaan	Wikipedia:Gambar pilihan/Usulan	POSTED Indonesian
ja	ja:Wikipedia:大使館	Wikipedia:秀逸な画像の推薦	POSTED Japanese
ka	ka:ვიკიპედია:საელჩო	ვიკიპედია:რჩეული ფოტოები/კანდიდატები	POSTED Georgian
kk	kk:Уикипедия:Елшілік	Жоба:Таңдаулы суреттер/Үміткерлер	POSTED Kazakh
ky	ky:Wikipedia:Элчилик	Уикипедия:Күндүн мыкты сүрөтү	POSTED Kyrgyz
min	min:Wikipedia:Kadutaan	Wikipedia:Gambar Nan Tapiliah/Usulan	POSTED Minang
ml	ml:വിക്കിപീഡിയ:Embassy	വിക്കിപീഡിയ:തിരഞ്ഞെടുക്കാവുന്ന ചിത്രങ്ങൾ	POSTED Malayalam
ms	ms:Wikipedia:Kedutaan	Wikipedia:Calon gambar pilihan	POSTED Malay
pl	pl:Wikipedia:Ambasada	Wikipedia:Ilustracja na medal - propozycje	POSTED Polish
ro	ro:Wikipedia:Ambasadă	Wikipedia:Propuneri pentru imagini de calitate	POSTED Romanian
so	so:Wikipedia:Safaarad	Wikipedia:Soo Bandhigga Sawirka Xulka	POSTED Somali
tr	tr:Vikipedi:Büyükelçilik	Vikipedi:Seçkin resim adayları	POSTED Turkish
tt	tt:Википедия:Илчелек	Википедия:Сайланган рәсемгә кандидатлар	POSTED Tatar
uz	uz:Vikipediya:Elchixona	Vikipediya:Tanlangan tasvir nomzodlari	POSTED Uzbek
vi	vi:Wikipedia:Đại sứ quán Wikimedia	Wikipedia:Đề cử hình ảnh chọn lọc	POSTED Vietnamese
yo	yo:Wikipedia:Embassy	Wikipedia:Àwòrán ọjọ́ òní	POSTED Yoruba
yue	yue:Wikipedia:本地大使館	Wikipedia:正圖候選	Cantonese - recommended VP was protected against edits
zh	zh:Wikipedia:大使館	Wikipedia:特色圖片評選	POSTED Chinese
th	th:วิกิพีเดีย:สถานทูตวิกิมีเดีย	วิกิพีเดีย:ภาพคัดสรร	POSTED Thai

Other projects without relevant embassies

• Commons POSTED on Village Pump

Other projects with no local FPC process

From the top 10 most spoken languages missing from the list, based on Wikidata's list of FPC pages.

#	id	Language	Embassy	Status
1	fr	French	fr:Wikipédia:Ambassade	POSTED
2	pt	Portuguese	pt: Wikipédia:Embaixada	POSTED
3	bn	Bengali	bn: উইকিপিডিয়া:দূতাবাস	POSTED
4	ru	Russian	ru: Википедия:Посольство	POSTED
5	pa	Punjabi	Unknown

Posting banner in ru-wiki

@Fæ:, thanks for letting us know your plans. I'm worried about posting that banner in ru-wiki because of en:Russian gay propaganda law. Russian government can use this case to either block ru-wiki within Russia or/and impose fine upon local Wikimedia charter. --Ghuron (talk) 06:48, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

There are probably two separate aspects to this issue. I'll reply to them separately.

1. The competition may be disruptive for the Russian Wikipedia.

   This is an issue that regular participants in the Russian Wikipedia would need to address, rather than folks such as myself to impose from the outside. If this is seen as a sufficiently worrying concern, then I suggest a formal Request for Comments is created to establish and document a consensus as to whether the Russian Wikipedia, or potentially geo-locations in Russia in any language, should or should not be a project for this notice to be published. With a formal consensus documented one way or the other, the Central Notice procedure should respect that consensus.

2. The competition may be illegal or unlawful in Russia under the Russian gay propaganda law.

   The law is intended to protect children from "propaganda of nontraditional sexual relationships". However the competition is not for photography that by itself could called propaganda. Nor is there any intent to target children. The competition is not a rights campaign and has no political agenda. The goal, as stated in the Proposal, is simply to increase the number of Featured Picture quality photographs for all projects in all languages on the theme of LGBT+ culture and history. These may be high quality photographs of any kind on this theme, even photographs of protests against LGBT+ acceptance.

   I recommend that if active Russian language contributors believe that this competition risks breaking the law in Russia, and may be a risk to the Russian Wikipedia, they contact WMF legal. As the recipient of the grant, I have taken the precaution of notifying Michelle Paulson by email of this discussion, well in advance of the Central Notice being agreed.

Thanks --Fæ (talk) 10:02, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'm not that much worried about #2, personally I think this law is plain stupid, the whole hypothesis of "propaganda can change sexual orientation" has no scientific proof. Also I do know Jimbo's opinion regarding "wikipedia blocking" and I believe your initiative can bring a lot of good for community. But being blocked not because of wikipedia content, but because of the banner, seems a bit silly :)

Anyway, I'm not experienced meta-participant, so I'm seeking your advise. Assuming that we will have discussion at ru-wiki project chat and there will be formal consensus, which can be translated to English, would should we do next? --Ghuron (talk) 10:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I suggest we then add a brief summary of the conclusion to the Central Notice request, and the CN administrators can advise on implementation. I suggest that any RfC (or equivalent), is on the basis of potentially excluding the central notice from Russian Wikipedia readers geo-located in Russia. Obviously, a Russian reader sitting in London, has no reason to be concerned about complying with Russian censorship laws. I doubt we need go further than that, unless WMF legal agrees that the notice should not run in any language for readers geo-located in Russia, which seems unlikely from what I understand so far.

Hopefully, the RfC will conclude that nothing needs to be done, as this competition is not propaganda. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 11:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I've opened discussion below your post, but want to double-check one thing. Did I get it right that final banner will feature either this picture or similair one? --Ghuron (talk) 12:43, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

No. There is no current plan for a picture. --Fæ (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah, that makes things much easier, I don't think that text-only banner will cause much controversy --Ghuron (talk) 13:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)