Orphan articles

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Hello

I'm just reading your orphan articles paper. I'm preparing a summaryof your work for the next issue of RAW, a French newsletter about Wikimedia (w:fr:Wikipédia:Regards sur l'actualité de la Wikimedia), and I have have some remarks and questions.

The link to the source code (https://github.com/epfl-dlab/Wikipedia-orphans) doesn't work for me. Is there any new url?

In your statistical analysis (eg Figure 3), I'm surprised that you give the same weight to all Wikipedia versions without considering their size. Do you think the results would be different if you weight each Wikipedia by its size?


Your wiki visibility tool is very interesting. I think it would be very useful to be able to pass the arguments in the url in order to have a sharable url. This would also allows to develop JS tools which could add the link to your at the bottom of orphan articles (w:fr:Utilisateur:PAC2/Chouette for instance).

Cheers PAC2 (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@PAC2 thanks for your interest and for reaching out.
  • The URL of the source code is correct; though I see the repo is currently empty. We will be making the code public under that URL in the next weeks before the paper is published when we are making the final revisions (the current version is a non-peer-reviewed preprint and we didnt get around to do that yet, sorry).
  • We decided to report the macro-average (i.e. equal weight to each Wikipedia) in order to highlight the behavior across the different languages. In contrast, a micro-average (i.e. weighting by the size of the Wikipedia) would be dominated by few very large Wikipedias because of the large differences in size across Wikipedias. The two averages might yield different results. However, we were particularly interested in the overall behavior "across Wikipedias" and not so much in the overall behavior across "all articles". In addition, most of the figures report the average for each individual Wikipedia (blue dots); we are planning to report a table in the repo that contains the numbers for each Wikipedia so other ways of averaging could be done as well.
  • I adapted the tool to pass arguments as a sharable URL. Example: https://linkrec.toolforge.org/?lang=en&title=Pokotia%20Monolith Is this what you had in mind? I would be very curious to hear how this tool might be useful to editors; or also, how we could potentially make it more useful.
I hope this answers your questions. Dont hesitate to reach out if you have follow-up questions or comments.
Best, MGerlach (WMF) (talk) 13:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot for your answers.
The new sharable url for Wiki Visibility is perfect. PAC2 (talk) 15:09, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've written a summary of your article in French for the community newsletter RAW : w:fr:Wikipédia:RAW/2023-09-01#orphelins. PAC2 (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for sharing the link here. MGerlach (WMF) (talk) 08:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Readability tool

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Kia ora Martin, I have been catching up on sessions I missed during Wikimania, and heard about the readability tool during Leila's research findings talk. I tried the tool out but after pushing the Submit button, it goes grey and nothing happens. Has the tool been disabled or is it maybe just a temporary outage? I appreciate this was an experimental tool under development, but it fills such an obvious need that I was keen to see it work! Thanks, DrThneed (talk) 00:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@DrThneed Thanks for flagging this. The tool did not work after we had updated the underlying model on LiftWing to the latest version (T369712). I now added a fix and it should be up working again. Let me know if you encounter any problems. MGerlach (WMF) (talk) 09:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks so much! Look forward to experimenting with it.DrThneed (talk) 22:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply