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Main listing killed with fire at popular request. Listing stands for related pages as listed below by Angela: Association of Antiexclusionist and Wikiliberal Wikipedians, Association of antiexclusionist Wikipedians, , Wikiliberal, Wikiconservatism. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:30, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Never mind, I can't count; hasn't been 15 days. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I can. It's 17 delete (and other excruciating tortures), 3 keeps, one undecided and a few comments. And it's been 23 days. So delete it is. notafish }<';> 19:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

(votes archived)

Should this deletion also have applied to Association of Immoral Wikipedians and Association of Amoral Wikimedians since they were started in response to this one? Angela 07:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Is there any problem to apply it?　--Aphaia 23:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
They're funny, unlike the others... but probably best to nuke them too. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:32, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Dummy article

Not relevant. Korg 03:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Historical MediaWiki - Dih

Delete: this page does not belong on meta encyclopedic article, historic timeline of terrorism or bombings? ∞Who?¿? 05:05, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Scott Gall

No longer needed, content was moved to a more appropriate subpage. Arbeo 11:00, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Video Streaming Proof of Concept

Orphan page with no explanation of what it is. Angela 12:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Delete No context. I can see how this could have been written in haste by a stressed developer though, heh :). WhiteNight T | @ | C 16:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Communities of Practice:Practitioners guide

Possible a copyvio. See talk. Angela 12:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, orphan, unrelated to meta.

Files created after data download

Files created after data download of what? Makes no sense. Doesn't seem relevant to meta. Angela 12:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Ray Jayawardhana

Vanity article with no relevance to meta. Angela 12:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Trainning Center

Orphaned page that seems to be on the wrong project. Largely copied from the wiki article on en and fulll of red links to things that shouldn't be on meta and broken templates. Angela 15:33, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Switching from a fix price for the project to a virtual employment scheme

It's categorized: Sales_tips. --M/ 17:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

ETours ActiveX

Nearly a brochure of a commercial software product. See also screenshot image in next section. --M/ 17:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Panorama viewers

A roughly analysis of some commercial products developed by a single company. --M/ 18:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Bunkie Legion

Tagged as a speedy, so someone else feel free to do so :). Has some content but I don't think it belongs here as it has nothing to do with wikimedia and is basically an encyclopedia article about a small MUD group. WhiteNight T | @ | C 16:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Poverty

Same as above --M/ 21:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Ownership

Same as above --M/ 21:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Civilization

Same as above --M/ 21:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Tragedy of the Commons

Same as above --M/ 21:15, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Sahana Academic Paper

Not relevant. --Aphaia++ 08:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Www.vsa-aas.org

Not relevant to Meta. Rspeer 15:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

"Movie

Not relevant, orphan page. --M/ 09:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

VOIP - ADB GLOBAL MANUAL

The general article is already present on en.wiki. This appears to be a local firm manual, not relevant to meta. Orphan page. --M/ 09:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Boozhound Laboratories

Smells advertisement ... anyway not relevant to meta. --Aphaia 18:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Budapest in Danger

Personal essay, non useful page, not relevant to meta. --M/ 20:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Patriotic Song

It seems to be not related to meta, orphan page. --M/ 12:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Product Inventory Protocol

Not relevant to meta. --M/ 16:44, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Product Inventory

Not relevant to meta. --M/ 17:36, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

DBase Specifications

DBase is not suitable for Mediawiki, thus not relevant to meta. The page is orphan. This subject is already present on en.wiki, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBASE --M/ 23:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Legend_of_the_Five_Rings

Tagged as a speedy - unrelated to meta but has a lot of content that maybe is more of a candidate for transwiki? WhiteNight T | @ | C 06:50, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Wordbank

Unrelated to meta, very partial content. Page is orphan, it doesn't appear to be the start of a new project. --M/ 16:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

ReTorrent

Unrelated to meta, moved to en.wiki, original author credited and notified. --M/ 14:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Dennis May

Not relevant to Meta. Rspeer 05:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Andreas Wehowsky

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 03:02, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Purity Crusaders

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 03:04, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Ramshackle

Orphan page, not relevant to meta. --M/ 15:40, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Борьба с червями и троянами(на примере lovesun)

Antivirus istructions (антивиру), orphan and out of place here? The ftp links provider are only local and do not work out of Author's intranet. --M/ 15:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Fotofab

Doesn't belong on Meta. Transwiki'd to en:Transwiki:Fotofab. «»Who¿?en 23:06, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Whiteley Village

Irrelevant orphan. --202.7.64.88 12:09, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Vikipedija

"A duplicate article exists at the correct location http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/ltg/Vikipedija" says Kalvis; see also this diff. Korg 05:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Clover(toy company)

Not relevant to Meta: has been moved to en:Clover (toy company). Korg 06:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

New Jersey Raptors

Not relevant to Meta... Korg 07:01, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Matthew Barton

Procedural, tagged as speedy but has some content. "Pneumonomoxyfrusebendronyomycina" does not exist and the page seems like utter nonsense. WhiteNight T | @ | C 19:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Organic Perspective, Orp

Procedural, tagged as speedy. Not meta related (the two articles are about the same subject, roughly). WhiteNight T | @ | C 20:01, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Mbengwi

Really somewhere in Cameroon, I didn't find on en.wiki... Is it worth to be inserted on en.wiki in this substub format? --M/ 22:27, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

A Glossary of confusing Psychiatric Terms

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 03:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Tajikistan Support Project (TSP)

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 03:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Orp Art

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 03:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Association of International Product Marketing & Management

Irrelevant orphan, has been moved to en:Association of International Product Marketing & Management. Korg 03:18, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

P-Rock TV

Irrelevant orphan. Korg 03:18, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


The Paramount Mountain

Irrelevant orphan. Korg 03:59, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Monk, Samuel

Irrelevant orphan. Korg 03:59, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Media Coverage of Civil Unrest

Irrelevant orphan. Korg 03:59, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

RZ11 Changes

Not relevant to Meta, orphan page. Korg 04:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

North Bay Moustache League

Not relevant to Meta, orphan page. Korg 04:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Ishok Case

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 04:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Adam Grachnik

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 04:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Homer Park

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 04:32, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Vidient

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 05:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Steps To Take In Designing An Interior Space For A Client

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 05:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Design Process

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 05:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Mesosystems, Youth, and Civility

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 06:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Webpreneur

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 06:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Scott Allen Miller

Not relevant to Meta. Transwiki'd to en:Scott Allen Miller. Korg 06:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Patent Law

Not relevant to Meta, orphan. Korg 06:25, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Winter Anime Season 2005/2006

Not relevant to Meta, orphan. Korg 06:25, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hungarianab

Already moved to en.wiki, not relevant to Meta, orphan. --M/ 20:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Migrating Profiles

Looks like Windows for Dummies. Irrelevant to meta. villy ♦ ✎ 07:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

WebLogic 9.0 workaround for Hibernate 3.0

Describing a bug with WebLogic and Hibernate 3.0. Irrelevant to meta. villy ♦✎ 07:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Perfectly Exposed

Seemingly deleted on en. Irrelevant on meta. villy ♦✎ 08:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Cheddar

Advert. about a free real time scheduling tool. Irrelevant to meta. villy ♦✎ 08:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Basel II

From en:Basel II. Encyclopedic and irrelevant to meta. villy ♦✎ 08:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Bunganda

Written in some sort of portuguese, though I wasn't able to decipher everything. Obviously without connection with meta. villy ♦✎ 08:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

MCI Billerica

Can't see the connection with meta. villy ♦✎ 08:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Glúniť

Looks like polish and unlike serious or meta connected. villy ♦✎ 08:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Icewave 1.0 Getting Started Chapter

Again, can't see the connection between this piece of software and meta. Maybe, I'm wrong <shrug>. villy ♦✎ 09:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Technology Projects Wish List

Ditto. villy ♦✎ 09:07, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Growth of Divorce in India cause delaronce level of women decreased

Not relevant to Meta. Korg 00:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Michael Kantaris

Irrelevant to Meta. Korg 00:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Drown Megan Records

Irrelevant to Meta. Korg 01:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Bjarke

Irrelevant to Meta. Korg 01:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

ZKush

Irrelevant to meta. Delete --негіднийлють (Reply|Spam Me!*|RfS) 06:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The Alamo

Tips on the battle? Shouldn't be here ... villy ♦✎ 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Unlocking The Mystery Of Jehovah

Weird. At least, irrelevant to meta. Thanks God. villy ♦✎ 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Paint Monkey

Ad. for Paint Monkeys, Inc. villy ♦✎ 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Bus World

Presentation of a "a comical webpage". Irrelevant to meta. villy ♦✎ 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Pětr Młónk

Obviously a biography. villy ♦✎ 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Moved to Test-WP/wen/Pětr Młónk where it belongs. Can be speedied. --Dundak 22:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Categories

Category:Cat1

Unused cat, looks like a test. Delete --негіднийлють (Reply|Spam Me!*|RfS) 05:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Category:Computer Science

Another unused cat that looks irrelevant to meta. Delete --негіднийлють (Reply|Spam Me!*|RfS) 05:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Groups

Oh sorry, I deleted though 15 days hadn't passed; ;( If anyone requested for undeletion, I'll do it willingly. And if you submit another new requests, please don't mix it with older one to avoid confusion. Thanks. --Aphaia++ 07:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh my dear; it *was* listed on October ... and I deleted it on November. No problem, hopefully. Personally I'd like to keep its top page for historical interest. --Aphaia++ 06:44, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Images

Image:EToursScreenshot.jpg

For the same reasons of ETours ActiveX. --M/ 17:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:BuyclassFramework.JPG

Orphan, unrelated with meta. No license tag. --M/ 14:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:BuyclassFramework2.JPG

Orphan, unrelated with meta. No license tag. --M/ 14:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:PortlandStreetBlues.jpg

Not relevant to Meta. No license tag. Korg 05:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Alamo.jpeg

This image is only used at The Alamo, which is listed for deletion above. Further, the image lacks information about its license, despite the requirement at Special:Upload.

I would like to tag the image as "unknown copyright", but I cannot. The link about image tags at Special:Upload links to the wrong wiki, English Wikipedia. Thus I cannot meet the criteria for speedy deletion candidates listed at Project:Deletion policy, and must list the image here. --Kernigh 00:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Not closed

Templates

4x4 squares

Merged in from Meta:Requests for deletion/4x4 page list. —{admin} Pathoschild 02:13:18, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

These templates have no place on meta or any other project running on Wikimedia servers. Template inclusion is not optimised for this kind of use, putting these templates in any commonly viewed page will cause excessive database load. Gangleri, please generate the required tables using your own computing resources, then save the template-free results into the relevant Wikipedia or Wikibooks pages. The page list that I want deleted is at Meta:Requests for deletion/4x4 page list -- Tim Starling 23:05, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Related category: Category:4x4 type square -- Tim Starling 23:17, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Halló Tim! I noticed this deletion request last evening. Usually I can not be everywhere and did not read many Wikipedia etc. pages but I must admit that this is the first statement "have no place on meta or any other project running on Wikimedia servers" I could see. I am aware about the technical difference of the constructs I made which are somehow "procedural programming" and probably unique because of the level of nestings and because only named parameters are used which makes them more easier to understand.
One reason of creating them at meta was because of their complexity and because no other multilingual project was known to me. Two, three weeks before I lost 7,000 - 10,000 edits on a set of test wikis in a few seconds. I did not like that this should happen again.
Onother reason is that this is what meta is claiming to be (a multilingual project). Having the library here would allow contributors in other languages or projects to choose what the need.
Regarding "template inclusion is not optimised for this kind of use" I want to remember about bugzilla:02777 – "request for a {{substall:foo}} beside {{subst:bar}}" which is exactly that you mean with "save the template-free results into the relevant Wikipedia or Wikibooks pages". If I understand bugzilla:01126 – "Interwiki Templates" correctly it is another usefull requirement about sharing templates between projects in a similar fashion as images are shared from commons since end of last year. This should be a strategic achievement and many language projects whith less contributors would benefit from it.
Regarding "please generate the required tables using your own computing resources". I spend several months during the last years working on these (4x4 – Jain) and other squares and one aim (of creating pages on this subject) was to let anybody benefit from the results I found out. Most results are computed already as you can see looking at the history of all. I did not post more because of the size. I admit that I used the templates during the last days for the "commutativy check computations" but on the other hand this (transition of transitions – transition composition) is (according to me) something new for ilustrations and wiki technology. I did not experience any timeout at any time I worked at meta.
There are a lot of interesting topics related to the squares. Deleting the templates leads to a "chicken and egg" situation. How to create the articles without the templates / ilustrations?
I am not shure if the communities opinion counts here and would be interested about it. Every project reaches points (size, complexity, etc.) which could not be forseen at its start. Remember the fear about the database grow and the servers, remember deactivation of images in templates etc. The ability to change is somthing natural and essential for surviving. If it is to "early" to use and / or experiment with these constructs they could be "deactivated" and "protected". Then their history and the work on them would not le bost.
Another item I would like to know about relates to the time schedule or assistence. If the templates get deleted when? Is there a bot and a wiki where they can be transfered? http://wikimagic.com/ could be a place. It is a domain which I received as a gift and I have no ambitions about it.
Probably I can not attend Wikimania as intended in spring. Please drop some notes here or at my users page. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 16:50, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
Use Special:Export to generate an XML dump of the necessary pages, then import them into the wiki of your choice. Set one up yourself if you like. I have nothing about displaying examples of these transformations on wikibooks, I just have something against using MediaWiki to perform those transformations on every page view. Just do the transformations by hand on paper, then transcribe the results into tables. As for the months you spent on it, well, maybe you should try using Matlab or C++ instead, I'm sure you would have found the development time to be much shorter. You could even have put the code online, as a demonstration to students who wish to do a similar thing. -- Tim Starling 20:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Halló Tim! Thanks for the answer. I think there are is a simpler approach. Just take a look at Template talk:4x4 type square/T/table/(code). There is no need to copy all / some of the templates at other projects. The mentioned page used as a parameter is a "code factory" for anyone without a need of using Mathlab, C++ etc. Maybe we should ask what users wants this or would be able to insert "(code)" in the existing / future examples available already at the template talk pages in Category:4x4 type square.
addendum: make a preview, copy the generated code and paste it to the destination page.
I do not mind if these templates get lost. If they should be deleted so what, it will not change the world; I will not take this personally. But maybe others can benefit of them and meta would be the place deserving its name.
What I am puzzeled are your objections. Other pages are using templates as well. "putting these templates in any commonly viewed page will cause excessive database load" probably relates to the complexity. This would no longer be an issue with the method described above. Do you agree?
By the way. During the development I reported some discovered bugs about page rendering. It seems that the work was not useless. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 22:29, August 1, 2005 (UTC) – Gangleri | Th | T 11:03, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
The original replay was lost. See:
  1. bugzilla:03011 – "lost contributions before / during database maintenance"
  2. screen dump
Regards Gangleri | Th | T 11:19, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
You can see the use of the "code factory" at de:Magisches Quadrat and de:Diskussion:Magisches Quadrat. Regards Gangleri | Th | T 23:52, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or delete?
Delete I can't find any relevance to meta on those templates, and it was annoyed those edits took over meta RC. Multilingualism on meta is in purpose of serving our projects - meta has not to serve any multilingualism. --Aphaia++ 01:38, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Feedback'

"A place to organise and prepare content, to discuss interlanguage co-ordination issues" – to my understanding this applies here
  • In response to Aphaia:
  1. Maybe you are disappointed because I did not decitate my time for the translations of Wikimania texts. The reason is quite simple: I asked for a login possibility but did not receive any response. Please respect that I do not like to contribute to sites / subdomains where I can not log in.
  2. Is "it was annoyed those edits took over meta RC" an argument? Would you have prefered contributions like "This three will never stop growing. It will reach the sky." (compare 1.Mose 11,4) By the way there are many entries in the RC lines at various projects some about real wars I would not like to comment here further. Most of the contributions I made where marked as minor change, quite easy to filter.
  3. Mathematics and algebra is not Wikispecies: having a dedicated site. Rome was not build in a day. You are about to stop the work before the description purpose is made and before the various Wikipedia / Wikibook projects about mathematics where contacted and had a chance to respond. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 21:13, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
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