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[21:49] <Mike_H> ok go
[21:50] <LaMenta3> the lady at ICPA wanted to know what kind of organizational backing the Wikimedia Foundation gives to the selected host city
[21:50] <Mike_H> Austin: You've been involved in this, would you like to answer that?
[21:51] <CraigSpurrier> a bit, though the office people are overworked as is. iirc Wikia hired someone last time to help
[21:51] <Mike_H> You would know more than I would. I have an idea but not much.
[21:51] <LaMenta3> for example, the people who brought RoboCup to Tech had to essentially establish their own non-profit corporation to deal with financial matters so that they didn't have to pay Tech to do it for them
[21:51] * Looking up Austin user info...
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[21:51] <CraigSpurrier> if Wikinews Foundation has been established in time, it can help with any of that
[21:52] <LaMenta3> something about the difference between having to have the money for each attendee up front and not having to...or something like that
[21:52] <LaMenta3> it was sort of confusing
[21:52] <Mike_H> Hillary, from what I've seen and heard, the Foundation helps with a lot of that, and would help a lot with organizing
[21:52] <Mike_H> since it's their event.
[21:52] <LaMenta3> that's what I thought
[21:52] <Mike_H> It's a partnership
[21:52] <Mike_H> they work with us
[21:52] <LaMenta3> and I told her that I was pretty sure that was the case
[21:52] <Mike_H> and help us
[21:53] <LaMenta3> but she wanted us to look into it to find out exactly what organizational involvement they'd have once the bid city was selected
[21:53] <Mike_H> Oh, and I just got this in my inbox
[21:53] <Mike_H> good news <3
[21:53] <Mike_H> Mike
[21:53] <Mike_H> Will you add me to your email release list?
[21:53] <Mike_H> Thx.
[21:53] <Mike_H> Jeff D'Alessio
[21:53] <Mike_H> Senior editor/news
[21:53] <Mike_H> AJC
[21:53] <LaMenta3> woo!
[21:53] <LaMenta3> Remind me to give that man a cookie!
[21:54] <Mike_H> For the sake of people reading the logs
[21:54] <CraigSpurrier> Mike_H: you may want to check with Sandy if we can use the cpg press list
[21:54] <Mike_H> AJC stands for "Atlanta Journal Constitution," the major daily paper in metro Atlanta
[21:54] <Mike_H> CraigSpurrier: I'm the one who made it. However, to prevent COI, I will abstain from accessing it.
[21:54] <CraigSpurrier> it would saveyou a lot of time in finding addresses and the ones you find on your own should probaly be added to it anyways
[21:54] <Mike_H> Despite the fact that...I made it, and obviously I remember some people off it.
[21:55] <LaMenta3> Oh, I uploaded the PDF of the final press release to the website, but it's currently not linked as 1) I haven't had time to muck about in it and 2) I can't decide where best to put it
[21:55] <CraigSpurrier> <nods> the whole coi things is becoming a bit silly. Bids should be able to work more with the foundation and each other
[21:56] <Mike_H> Well, since I intern there, it's a whole COI battlefield, so I am making 150% sure nothing I do is in violation. I've bugged the moderators probably more than I needed to. ;)
[21:57] <LaMenta3> The COI thing is also a big reason why the Technique is so adamently dodging coverage requests
[21:57] <LaMenta3> If I didn't give a flying flip about COI, I could get it printed no problem because I work there
[21:58] <Mike_H> So basically they're not printing it because you two work there.
[21:58] <LaMenta3> but all I can do is say "hey, this exists, did you see it? I think we should cover it."
[21:58] <CraigSpurrier> I understand the reasons for the whole COI issue, but it is counter productive how it is being handled
[21:58] <Mike_H> That would explain why Matthew Winkler will not respond to my phone calls.
[21:58] <LaMenta3> it's not BECAUSE we work there but rather because I can't push too hard to get it included without appearing improper
[21:58] <Mike_H> Well, right. That's why I've taken it upon myself to get it out there.
[21:59] <Mike_H> And I even let him know
[21:59] <Mike_H> "Hey, I wrote this release, Hillary was not involved"
[21:59] <LaMenta3> but there are a couple of other issues involving their overall low wattage and determination that this isn't important because it isn't "for certain" yet
[22:00] <LaMenta3> though I bet the paper covered Atlanta's BID for the olympics
[22:00] <LaMenta3> meh.
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[22:00] <Mike_H> It really is crap. I do not have the best impression of Matthew Winkler right now.
[22:00] <Mike_H> However...
[22:01] <Mike_H> we may have a good lead and contact as far as getting our release printed in the AJC
[22:01] <Mike_H> if not tomorrow
[22:01] <Mike_H> maybe Thursday.
[22:01] <LaMenta3> Again, remind me to send Jeff D'Alessio a cookie.
[22:01] <Mike_H> <3
[22:01] <Mike_H> I should invite him to the meeting.
[22:01] <Mike_H> The one on Friday.
[22:01] <LaMenta3> mmm...I'm not sure that's proper and I'm sure he's got better things to do
[22:02] <Mike_H> Why wouldn't it be proper?
[22:02] <Mike_H> I've been inviting all interested parties to the meeting.
[22:02] <LaMenta3> I don't know...I just said I'm not sure
[22:02] <LaMenta3> that little nagging voice in the back of my mind
[22:02] <Mike_H> We're not trading it for anything.
[22:02] <Mike_H> "Come to our meeting, and write about us!"
[22:03] <Mike_H> Hopefully, they would be writing about us before the meeting occurs.
[22:03] <LaMenta3> I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask
[22:03] <LaMenta3> though we'd have to be on our best behavior with "eyes" watching
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[22:04] <Mike_H> Well, obviously. Leonard Witt would be there and I can tell he has great integrity. He wouldn't want to be involved with anything that even seemed like it was tainted with impropriety.
[22:04] <LaMenta3> Well, I meant like, no food fights, no dirty jokes and keep the innuendo to a minimum ;)
[22:05] <Mike_H> oh, yeah.
[22:05] <Mike_H> Okay, we may have a story in for tomorrow, just based on my research
[22:06] <Mike_H> I checked to see who Joe Earle from the AJC cc'd
[22:06] <Mike_H> he cc'd Jeff D'Alessio
[22:06] <Mike_H> and Arthur Brice
[22:06] <Mike_H> (a reporter)
[22:06] <Mike_H> and
[22:06] <Mike_H> David Gibson
[22:06] <Mike_H> (the nighttime metro editor)
[22:06] <Mike_H> that's promising.
[22:06] <LaMenta3> hmm. I guess I'll pick up a copy of the AJC for the next couple of days
[22:07] <Mike_H> and Jeff himself is the senior news editor
[22:07] <Mike_H> at the AJC
[22:08] <Mike_H> A google search also shows he is the deputy sports editor?
[22:08] <Mike_H> it may be dated results though
[22:11] <Mike_H> if he just emailed me
[22:11] <Mike_H> he may still be in the office
[22:11] <Mike_H> I will call right now and find out
[22:12] <LaMenta3> why does that matter?
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[22:12] <Mike_H> Why does what matter?
[22:14] <Mike_H> Obviously he's read the story and wants to be on our press list. I want to know what he thought.
[22:14] <LaMenta3> oh that
[22:14] <LaMenta3> I thought you were talking about whether or not he was deputy sports editor
[22:14] <LaMenta3> thoughts jumping
[22:15] <Mike_H> oh, no
[22:16] <CraigSpurrier> gtg
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[22:17] <Mike_H> although I did another search, and David Gibson, one of the people that was cc'd
[22:18] <Mike_H> was on a compilation list of "top editors at U.S. newspapers"
[22:18] <Mike_H> so that's good.
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[22:22] <Mike_H> Who else should we e-mail?
[22:22] <Mike_H> I might compile another list
[22:29] <Mike_H> ?
[22:32] <Mike_H> Hillary
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[22:38] <Mike_H> Hillary!
[22:39] <LaMenta3> sorry, many places at once
[22:39] <LaMenta3> I don't know who else we should email at the moment
[22:39] <LaMenta3> let's just stick with regional print at the moment
[22:39] <Mike_H> well, obviously regional
[22:40] <Mike_H> but newspapers we didn't consider in the region
[22:40] <LaMenta3> maybe go after some of the smaller print publications on Category:Atlanta Media
[22:42] <Mike_H> Okay, wasn't thinking that
[22:42] <Mike_H> I was thinking like cities
[22:42] <Mike_H> like Rome
[22:42] <Mike_H> or Athens
[22:42] <Mike_H> or something
[22:42] <LaMenta3> that too
[22:42] <Mike_H> If you'd like to send it out to SoVo or Creative Loafint
[22:42] <Mike_H> *Loafing
[22:42] <Mike_H> be my guest
[22:42] <Mike_H> I'm going to focus on the city papers, though. But it'd be good if the others did get it.
[22:42] <Mike_H> Would you like to do that?
[22:43] <LaMenta3> sure
[22:43] <LaMenta3> dunno if I can take care of that tonight, as I have homework I haven't even started on
[22:44] <LaMenta3> but I'll do it
[22:45] <Mike_H> k
[22:46] <Mike_H> With that, I'll call the meeting over, it's died out
