The Wikinews vote is now closed. Further edits to this page will be reverted. The demo site that was approved at demo.wikinews.org prior to a formal Board decision being made about the project now redirects to the English Wikinews. This page is a transclusion of all voting pages to allow easy viewing of the vote totals.
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- Die Abstimmung wird 2004-11-12, 20:00 UTC enden.
- Der Vorschlag muss mit der Mehrheit aller abgegebenen Stimmen angenommen werden um in Kraft zu treten.
- Wenn eine Woche nach dem Ende der Wahl, ein mehr als 90%tiges Übereinkommen herrscht, kann das Projekt sofort begonnen werden.
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Ja
edit- Dg1nsw (für alle die das "Massen-Medien-Parallel-Universum" ablehnen :-) 22:38, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Elfboi (unter gleichem Namen auch bei der deutschen Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Elfboi )12:39, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mbimmler 14:00, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- ILF 21:00, 23 Oct 2004 (GMT+1)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Finanzknigge 02:53, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Thüringer ☼ 06:06, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) Die dpa darf ihr Quasimonopol nicht behalten!
- Fuzz 12:02 24 Oct 2004 (local)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Neitram 10:06, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- MichaelDiederich 10:14, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) Ich bin einfach begeistert!
- Benni 10:58, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Cirdan 11:26, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Jorges 11:29, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) Leiten wir die Weltrevolution ein! :-)
- Mabi 12:08, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Langec, 14:20, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Ilja, 14:38, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- sashk 19:04, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) Dafür - DIY auf jeder Ebene :-)
- Eckhart Wörner 20:33, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- TheK 22:21, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) eigentlich hatte ich die Idee schon lange!
- DaB. Einen Versuch ist es IMHO immer wert.
- Shannon 08:16, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) tolle Idee (wenns funkt)
- EricPoehlsen 08:34, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) mehr als schiefgehen kanns ja nicht
- Chb 14:03, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Hitchhiker 16:50, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- jaos 21:42, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mischka Begründung siehe [| hier]; 02:05, 26 Oct 2004
- Steschke 05:15, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Epico 14:57, 26 Oct 2004 (GMT+1)
- DerTeufel 15:10, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) Schaun wir mal wie es wird ... vorallem im lokalen Bereich gibt es auf den "großen" Nachrichtenseiten zuwenige News
- Maha 14:59, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Thommess 14:02, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Lupus 10:13, 6 Nov 2004 Unbedingt ! Hat ein riesiges Potential.
- w:de:Benutzer:Nemonand jepp
- Thomas G. Graf 14:34, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- LeonWeber 17:11, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- MichaelWyrsch 11:11, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Haeber 01:50 UTC+1:00, 5th December 2004
- Josua Ja auf jeden Fall. Wir brauchen auch noch etwas Zeit um uns zu verbessern / siehe auch http://de.wikinews.org/wiki/Benutzer:Josua - 5th December 2004
- Falsebart Ja, wenn keine Pro7-Wikinews draus wird - 13:06 UTC+1:00, 5th December 2004
- --Trevithick 12:34, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC) War die erste Quelle, auf der ich heute morgen Nachrichten über das Erdbeben in Baden-Württemberg bekam.
- Schaengel89 @me 15:48, 22 May 2005 (UTC) nun, ich sehe da keine probleme
Nein
edit- Discostu - Ich sehe keine Notwendigkeit für dieses Projekt. Nachrichten lesen kann man auf etlichen Websites, selbst Nachrichten veröffentlichen kann man auf Indymedia.
- Entgegnung:
- Der Vorteil von WikiNews ist die Verlinkung mit Wikipedia. So kann man zu den Nachrichten direkt Hintergrundinfo bekommen. Außerdem ist es eine Einladung Wikipedia zu nutzen. Auch können wir direckt bei der Verlinkung feststellen, welche Artikel in Wikipedia noch fehlen. Josua
- KL47 - Auch dagegen, denke nicht, dass es sehr erfolgreich werden wird und auch nicht, dass es wirklich benötigt wird, es gibt zahlreiche gute Nachrichtenseiten im Netz. 17:30, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Nyxos - Dagegen.. Wir sollten uns nicht verzetteln, denn nach dem Motto divide et impera schwächt das die Stellung von WikiPedia [sic]. Selbst Wiktionary finde ich schon schlecht (möchte keinen damit beleidigen!), denn es fügt eine weitere Ressource hinzu, in der man ggfs. suchen muss (was mich persönlich jedesmal sofort und augenblicklich stresst, wenn ich eine nähere Information zu einem Wort oder Begriff nicht sofort finde. Etwas off-topic bzgl. Wikinews/Vote: Französische und englische Enzyklopädien gefallen mir sehr, da sie sofort nicht nur eine Begriffserklärung sondern auch die Etymologie und Synonyme liefern. Dies hat sich im deutschsprachigen Bereich leider nicht durchgesetzt.) - Wenn aber alle Wiki-Datenbanken wie WikiPedia, Wiktionary, Wikinews usw. automatisch mit einer Suchmaske verlinkt und addressierbar wären, hätte ich nichts gegen getrennte und neue Systeme, also auch nichts gegen Wikinews. -- Nyxos aka Tom Gries [mail] 11:25, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- JeLuF - brauchen wir nicht wirklich. -- JeLuF 18:14, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Echoray - das können andere besser; wir verzetteln uns. --Echoray 12:03, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The Wikinews vote is now closed. Further edits to this page will be reverted. The demo site that was approved at demo.wikinews.org prior to a formal Board decision being made about the project now redirects to the English Wikinews.
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- Voting will end on on November 12, 2004, 20:00 UTC.
- The proposal needs a majority in order to be passed to the board for consideration.
- If, after one week of voting, there is more than 90% of overall agreement, the project can be launched immediately.
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Yes
edit- Punboy November 10th. This is a great idea, definitely make "current event" assignments easier in school.
- w:User:Dino Gracio November 6. I like to see the world’s new age with constructives possibilities of interaction as possible.
- w:User:AaronSw November 6. I'm a little concerned about totally freezing articles -- at a minimum they should allow for annotation (e.g. with corrections and links to followups and so on). And I still don't believe in NPOV.
- User:dserra November 5.
- User:MacGyverMagic November 3.
- Gerard Braad 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) But I think it is also good to start a WikiDirectory to start a service similar to DMOZ.org but which is really up to date.
- En:User:Ce garcon. 11:08, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Eloquence 20:01, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Angela 20:12, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Fredrik 20:12, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mathias Schindler 20:16, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Jacoplane 20:24, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mirv 20:37, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- dennis_krueger 09:52, 22 Oct 2004 (PDT) We need more sources of trusted news to supplement blogs and commercial media.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- -- Grunt 20:56, 2004 Oct 22 (UTC)
- Jimbo Wales - would I ever vote against world domination? Jimbo Wales 21:15, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Kpjas 22:07, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Erik Zachte 23:20, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
- Roberth 00:06, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- You did not login for voting, no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Inciteful 20:17 22 Oct 2004 (CST)
- Youssefsan 02:24, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delirium 03:00, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Ambi 07:22, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Gennady 08:00, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- BenM 08:10, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Garrone 08:17, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- the bellman - im still interested in how referencing is going to be done (esp. for this project but also for other wikimedia projects)
- Wolfram 11:50, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- If this turns out well, we can import information from Wikinews to Wikipedia and back. Neutrality 15:18, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Decagon 16:22, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Arne (akl) 16:26, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- -Wins oddf - The recent events section on Wikipedia's main page isn't enough.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. +sj+
- -68.0.92.136 17:24, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Note - we can't count this vote unless the user signs with his username.--Eloquence
- -Wins oddf - The recent events section on Wikipedia's main page isn't enough.
- DavidLevinson 18:10, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- TalkHard 18:27, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Even if it starts off slow, well written articles will get posted around the net always bringing new people.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Codeman 20:05, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Might as well have a go.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Anthony DiPierro 20:12, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) Why in the world would anyone oppose this?
- en:User:Vacuum Oct 23, 2004 - I'm not sure this will work, but there's no reason not to try.
- Mats Halldin 20:36, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) A wiki is a wiki is a wiki - it will work! :)
- Johan Dahlin 20:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Väsk 21:43, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) I'm really loocking forward to it!
- PointBlank 22:36, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) Need to make sure the enthusiasm is retained, there's much more than editing here!
- TUF-KAT 23:51, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Conti 03:38, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- bdesham 04:28, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Radagast 04:29, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - It's worth a shot, no matter how well it eventually does.
- Alexandre Dulaunoy Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:16:37 +0000 - Yes but news are very short-term information...
- Golbez 10:09, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Gonna have growing pains, going to need to work out specific policy, but why the hell not.
- François Obada 10:33, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - It would be a good complement to all the Wikimedia project, even if I'm a bit skeptical about the short-term aspect. But why not ? :)
- Lankiveil 10:37, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - I'm not sure if this will work or not, but as far as I'm concerned, it's worth a try.
- oscar 11:18, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) very excited about this!
- //softssa 20:02, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Yann 20:51, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Astronouth7303 23:05, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - I would love to have a NPOV on the US presedential race. (not that it would be set up in time for that)
- Chira 23:06, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) It's high time we opened the news process to the participation of normal people. The potential benefits of success are huge-- I suspect mainstream media is rarely neutral POV with all the special interests and politics.
- Borofkin 23:56, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Dejitarob 00:08, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) - This has some great potential. I'm sure all the kinks will get worked out and I can't wait to contribute.
- Lord Bob 23:56, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - This is too good an idea not to have.
- Isomorphic 00:41, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) - With one caveat. I think every Wikinews language should spend a while as just a news digest, with no original reporting. The communities will have plenty of issues to work through and policies to set before trying to tackle that one.
- Um... that's what the Current Events page on the Wikipedias are for. KirbyMeister
- Den fjättrade ankan 03:08, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- IZAK 05:39, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- -81.70.91.207 07:39, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- It is me - Andre Engels 14:22, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- Johnleemk 08:07, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Dittaeva 12:21, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Waerth 13:09, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC), I got some doubts but than again, if we haven't tried we will never know
- Guaka 13:55, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- -130.235.188.125 17:10, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- Uncle Ed Sorry, having trouble logging in.
- Aldous 23:51, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) Absolutely.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- w:Goobergunch 23:38, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Jacius 02:29, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) -- It's definitely worth a try. More detailed comments on my user page.
- —siroχo 04:22, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- TheAL 22:20, Oct 25, 2005 - I think this is a fantastic idea, because Wikipedia is already better than any other enclopedia out there, imagine what WikiNews will do to news. I would love to be a "Wiki journalist". Another upside to this would be since anyone registered can edit the WIki content, if a member accidently makes a spelling/grammar mistake is could be easily corrected.
- Ste 09:19, 26 Oct 2004 (CEST)
- Haslo 10:17, 26 Oct 2004 (CEST)
- u07ch 10:57, 26 Oct 2004 - I have reservations, especially editorial ones but you never know what will work till you try it.
- El Chico | Talk 12:14, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) — Excellent idea! We've been needing WikiNews for a while now, to eliminate the wars we have over En:Template:In the news. It ought to do us some good!
- James F. (talk) 12:43, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) But of course.
- [[User:mrbill[Bill B.]] 7:52, Oct. 26 2004. Definitely.
- Bshort 14:11, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Most definitely
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- --Blacklite 14:19, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) It will definitely take some hammering-out, but I think it is a good idea. The principles look sound.
- Elizabeth 14:34, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) Yes. Definitely. Just within my own small geographic region alone, I see so many newsworthy things happening that will never be covered in the traditional media. It would be great to have a place where people could find out about these more obscure events.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- rjs 15:34, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Stuart Homfray 15:43, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC) Isn't this one of the major points of the internet? News BY the people, FOR the people!
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- artmomz 16:27, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) I think it's worth a shot.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Hemanshu 16:49, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- blacksardine 09:48, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) Let's see - a free, completely open, always-changing, anybody-can-do-it news source? Bring the noise!
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Chris Hansen 16:55, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) I think it is a great idea - sort of like a community blogging effort.
- You did not login for voting, no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Kempleton 16:55, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) Wonderful idea. now if only we could get a wikipedia api going that people writing desktop clients could skin... hmm.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- jbond 17:43, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- User:Corqspy 19:09, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) YAY! NEWS! YAY! Seriously - Wikipedia has such a great news "front" already, just as a reference site, I can't wait t see a dedicated news effort. My vote: YES YES YES.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- User:Downes Yes
- User:The_silentist Absolutely. Kind of a huge-co-authored newsblog. News I've read on Wikipedia has been terrific in the past, lets do it!.
- eidosabi - Another skeptical yes, but a yes nonetheless. So, feel free to prove us skeptics wrong.
- User:DigitalDave - Yes, looking forward to it.
- -User:Lorrimer - Yes, definitely. Though the accreditation process will need a lot more thought.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. +sj+
- -User:Greg - Yes, absolutely.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on.--Eloquence
- -User:Lorrimer - Yes, definitely. Though the accreditation process will need a lot more thought.
- User:Aubrew - Yes.
- -User:Lindon - of course!
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- -User:Khosro - YES!
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- -User:Lindon - of course!
- User:jlb1982 - This is an absolute paradigm shift! Yes! Free the news from the need to make money!
- User:dqmillar - Absolutely.
- User:pgptag - YES because this is clearly the future of distributed participative media. But of course the devil is in the details and a lot will depend on the implementation.
- gwendal 07:53, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Yes
- -User:wrpreacher - by all means, YES
- You did not login for voting, no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. +sj+
- -User:wrpreacher - by all means, YES
- Gerritholl 11:58, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) - I don't expect it to work, but it's worth a try.
- GerardM 14:52, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) from small acorns big trees grow :)
- User:Williamcraig - I'm a journalist, and skeptical of both the possibility and the desirability of "neutrality" in reporting. What we leave in and leave out, even the order in which we present facts, are as much "editorializing" as the most overt statements of "bias." But "neutrality" or "objectivity" is a construct that journalists, subjects and readers agree to accept, however vaguely, in order to make social cooperation possible. Wikinews will undoubtedly arrive at its own working definition of this polite fib -- and I look forward to seeing its evolution.
- fno - 18:00, 27 Oct 2004 (CET)
- Yes, a great idea. Ludraman 16:31, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- What's the worst that could happen? Dillenger69 10:11, 27 Oct 2004 (PST)
- 119
- Ta bu shi da yu 07:21, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- --Tmh 12:17, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- jakemus
- Ultramancool - The more wikimedia networks there are the more free the world will be!
- sasquatch
- Jeff8765 23:21, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sawbones 23:51, 28 Oct 2004 (EST) The need for more objective reporting is critical at this juncture in the world.
- Hell yes. --Fjarlq 09:00, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- CGorman 10:49, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Why now! It just might work.
- HarmonicSphere Definitely! Sure beats the conventional media... and why, as H. L. Mencken said, should freedom of the press be limited to those who own one? Also, if we were to scrap this project on the basis that articles aren't "definitive," as at least one "No" vote suggests, wouldn't we have to scrap the whole idea of journalism? What news article is ever perfectly definitive, complete and utterly unbiased?
- Nadavspi 22:21, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- KirbyMeister 01:16, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC) When can you set it up?
- Yiango 11:28, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]]
- http://www.tjacobi.com - Great idea! Do it!
- Blerten Very jazzed - hope to help, if only proofreading-wise;-)
- Mattworld 21:34, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- AppleBoy 22:19, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC) Will be very glad to help, hope this project works :) See you guys in #wikinews
- Cabalamat mw 00:06, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC). This is a good idea and i hope this project succeeds. There are potential problems with it, e.g. legal issues, and also the timeliness of news stories once they have been editted for NPOV, but I believe we can resolve these problems.
- Cautiously. [[User:Rdsmith4|User:Rdsmith4/sig]] 01:45, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Rainbird 03:13, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)Yes - the miraculous effect of the wiki in society ought to show itself here with the daily politica and legal stuff in our world as well.
- User:wesleyb 07:55, 01 Nov 2004 It will be interesting to see what type of news will be presented when the primary objective of the site presenting the news is to present the news and not sell advertising space.
- It would have to be GFDL though, so we can incorporate it into wikipedia eventually. --217.61.146.21 14:29, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Kiand 19:31, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- De:User:Dreighton--213.23.144.202 08:53, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- MilesTeg 14:07, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Clay 14:45, 4 Nov 2004 (KOR)
- [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 09:21, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC) Yes and let's provide a Portuguese version. I am Luciano Martins Costa, journalist and writer, and I am just planning an online participative news site.
- User:avir 14:06, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC) Absolutely - it will give a good place to keep current-event type stories separate from Wikipedia, besides providing a good source of general news!
- richard 19:24, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC) Yes! Already the blogging community is providing some excellent news reporting; with concentration of corporate media in few hands, this kind of responsible collaboration may keep us free.
- Virtualblackfox 00:46, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) One more source of information can't be bad !
- Ilya 14:48, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) Yes, but as a test at first.
- --Piotrus 23:16, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) Why not? The idea is as sound as any other Wiki project and can be considered an extention of w:Current_events. If it flies of fails...it is up to the future contributors to decide, not us.
- Jrincayc 15:23, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Mitch Owen 15:28 7 Nov 2004 {UTC}
- En:User:Jonpin 07:40, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- elykyllek 05:24, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Basically NPOV blogging. Sounds wonderful. Andrevan 14:54, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- GoGi 19:04, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Hey, someone stole my thunder. Just one caveat, wikinews should get a running start. Ie: no press releases, no advertising, just a very very very quiet slow trickle as google starts archiving our articles. This will allow time to set up slowly and get the kinks outKim Bruning 01:20, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Garrett Albright — Here's hoping it can be a great source of international news.
- Ja:User:March 10:49, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Yes: Dmismir 18:02, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I came up with this idea 15 minutes ago, and then discovered that this proposal existed! So despite some misgivings about how the publication process might work, and taking energy from other Wiki, and duplicating Indymedia, and legal issues... I can hardly vote against it. However, I would say that most of the potential risks (eg not enough time to establish NPOV) that have been discussed would be much reduced if at least initially Wikinews thought of itself as a weekly or monthly Journal, with an appropriate publication cycle, and not as a Wiki version of Google News. Anyway, let's give it a try. Rd232 20:22, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- --Joelnackman 03:06, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Ru:Участник:Kneiphof 15:28, 12 Nov 2004 (cet)
- DCLXVI 14:09, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
No
edit# Hemanshu 20:13, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC) - see Talk:Wikinews for rationale
- En:User Fred Bauder
- Dori | Talk 22:56, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Alexandre Van de Sande 14:19, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) No or at least not yet - see Talk:Wikinews
- superm401Daily news just doesn't provide the necessary time for collaboration. News would be out of date before it was accurate and complete.
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Wellparp 20:10, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) - I think we should start only with the english wikinews. Too many projects in the smaller languages risk to spread out the participants too much.
- Do you agree to shut down Swedish Wiktionary until we are "finished" with en.? I know this isn't the right place to discuss but have you ever considered that there might be people who wouldn't participate at all if there were no projects in their language? -- Mathias Schindler 20:16, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Kzhr - Chinese government will shut wikimedia up cheerfully because of this project.
- "If we can't have free speech, nobody else can"?--Eloquence
- I don't usually comment on others' voting, but what sort of a reason is that! Just because the Chinese government wants to take the way of censorship, why should the rest of the world suffer? If you don't want a Chinese Wikinews, that's fine, but, really, this is a strange reason. Ronline 07:22, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) (Of course, you're entitled to your own vote, no pressure on that).
- The point was that news is more likely to be banned by China, and China will just ban all Wikimedia projects because of it. Hence, we can scrap the Chinese Wikipedia, since native Chinese would never be able to access it. -- user:zanimum
- If the Communist Party doesn`t like what the Wikimedia community decides to do and blocks Wikipedia entirely, that is their decision. I don`t see why that need affect the decision to launch or not to launch Wikinews. --Ce garcon 05:44, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) (Ce garcon)
- I see some point. Perhaps it would be more efficient to separate WikiNews from Wikipedia in some way. 203.160.1.66 14:41, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- While i disagree that we should cancel wikinews due to this, i would like to point out it is very easy for someone in the west to sit back and say that this is a stupid reason, but quite different for a wikimedian who actually lives in china. The bellman 07:24, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- When we launch Wikinews, which we no doubt will, I say we should definetly have Chinese "Wikinewses". However, just know that we are essentially making ourselves more tempting for China to block. If they block the whole Wikimedia family of sites, the Chinese Wikipedias, Wikiquotes, Wikisources, whatever, will all stagnate, with a small percentage of Chinese Wikimedians left. -- user:zanimum
- While i disagree that we should cancel wikinews due to this, i would like to point out it is very easy for someone in the west to sit back and say that this is a stupid reason, but quite different for a wikimedian who actually lives in china. The bellman 07:24, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I see some point. Perhaps it would be more efficient to separate WikiNews from Wikipedia in some way. 203.160.1.66 14:41, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- If the Communist Party doesn`t like what the Wikimedia community decides to do and blocks Wikipedia entirely, that is their decision. I don`t see why that need affect the decision to launch or not to launch Wikinews. --Ce garcon 05:44, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) (Ce garcon)
- The point was that news is more likely to be banned by China, and China will just ban all Wikimedia projects because of it. Hence, we can scrap the Chinese Wikipedia, since native Chinese would never be able to access it. -- user:zanimum
- I don't usually comment on others' voting, but what sort of a reason is that! Just because the Chinese government wants to take the way of censorship, why should the rest of the world suffer? If you don't want a Chinese Wikinews, that's fine, but, really, this is a strange reason. Ronline 07:22, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) (Of course, you're entitled to your own vote, no pressure on that).
- "If we can't have free speech, nobody else can"?--Eloquence
- A-giâu 06:01, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - It seems likely the project will mostly replicate the perspectives of the few mega-media sources out there (e.g. AFP, AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN...), for the practical reason that many significant news events will be inaccessible to current Wikipedians.
- Wanted 09:53, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - it's better to shift resources to make existing projects (esp. Wikipedia) run smooth, than spoil them for more and more projects which all would run slow
- Anthere 13:09, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mormegil 14:30, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) - I see no advantage that wiki-based news would have. I don't think wiki is a good method for news reporting. But I do see (=am able to imagine) disadvantages that associating Wikipedia/Wikimedia Foundation with such a news site would have.
- RoseParks 17:19, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Shaihulud 19:09, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Kaihsu 20:56, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC): Maybe Jimbo was not joking when he said "would I ever vote against world domination?"
- Maximus Rex 02:29, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Joi 06:50, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Iorsh 19:20, 25 Oct 2004 (JST) - If an obscure item like Iridology almost ignited an apocalypsis, imagine what would happen on the hot news issues... Noble wikipedians will fly around the world just to kill each one another personally.
- Jxg 16:32, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Jeffdelonge 19:08, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Hapsiainen 23:17, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) - NPOV and quick news writing don't match.
- Couillon 05:29, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) - Not yet: server load issues, it's a distraction at a critical time, failure could bring down crediblity
- Sam Hocevar 08:04, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- piro 13:20, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- +sj+ 12:49, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) A separate project for news summaries would be superb; original reporting, like original research, should be put off until that is well established. (see Talk)
- Isaackelley 13:08, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) just a bad idea, sorry to say.
- [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 19:24, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) 19:23, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) bad idea...
- -64.222.211.199 22:16, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) sorry to say but this screams NPOV/RV wars.
- No username provided, vote cannot be counted.--Eloquence
- Looxix 23:07, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC): while I think that a online communauty of benevolent can effectively be quite good at the redaction of encyclopedia, books, and others things where time doesn't really matter; I really don't think that the same can be achieve for quickly create articles on recent actuality. I also have strong difficulties to see how NPOV will be preserved. And, of course, I'm strongly opposed to the protection of articles some time after their creation: it's totally anti-wiki.
- Daniel Mayer (aka mav) 23:25, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) (reasons: some of Erik's ideas about having different article versions endorsed by different POV groups scares me, Anthere's opposition to Wikinews as proposed, and the possibility of drawing update attention away from keeping the encyclopedia up-to-date -- In the long term I do support the basic idea of having a Wikinews project)
- Just to clarify, having different article versions .. is neither part of the Wikinews proposal nor the Thinktank page.--Eloquence
- Danny 23:46, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Maha_ts 13:00, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) - see Talk:Wikinews for rationale
- ✏ Sverdrup 11:15, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) I tipped over to No, mostly because we have lots of other newly started projects to get going first. (Commons, species). While lots of people have done a great work on an expansive and detailed proposal, I can't believe in an egoless, moderated NPOV model.
- MichelleG 11:18, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) No, for the reasons I discussed here: [1]
- Fantasy 容 11:39, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) Sorry, but as much as I love the idea, the legal implications and risks are IMHO currently far too high. In the long term it will come out of Wikipedia anyway, be sure of that, but now it is too soon. There is absolutely no need to rush.
- .mau. I do not think wikipedia has sufficient mass to embark in such a task.
- .omnivorous. Having worked as a professional journalist, the job of covering a news story is impossible to deem complete: it consists of many small stories, depending on perspectives of individuals or disciplines. For example, what's the real story of the Microsoft antitrust cases? Will they ever be complete? Isn't really a story of economics and legal structure in a capitalist society? But why then is Steve Ballmer's heavy commitment to the Republican Party pertinent? Wikipedia's been VERY effective at the long perspective but I don't believe has the resources to be effective in "news".
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- MikyT 16:57, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Romary 09:49, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)~
- Dbabbitt 11:26, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC) No, unless the project is allowed to morph into some unexpected subset of daily news which decreases the bandwidth requirements and lessens the legal risks.
- Spikeballs - Gotta stay focused till Wikipedia is more complete.
- tsca
- Cyrius -- I don't think it'll work, and we already have a hard time attracting contributors to non-Wikipedia projects as it is.
- M/
- ShaneKing 14:19, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC) Would rather do this within the normal wikipedia, where articles can continue to grow as new information comes to light and can be crosslinked to other information. If you need to cite a specific version, that's what history is for!
- Approaching NPOV is difficult enough on encyclopedia articles where we have unlimited time at our hands. I can't see how such a short-lived item as a news story can be polished enough to be reliable and NPOV. Show me a way to do it and I'll change my vote. Kosebamse 17:22, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- geni
- Pe.nataf 20:54, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC) I think we would better focuse on the encyclopedia wich is already a good source for news
- Andrea MWhile people are free to do whatever they wish with their time, it is not a good idea to encourage waste of resources. Can you imagine the flamewars for what makes it to the front page? Are we going to vote on that too? Not everything has to be collaborative and open source.
- Ma'ame Michu 19:18, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC) – Instead of launching misty projects (wikinews), some would be better inspired to work to help the existing projects correctly work. (I apologize for the Google translation). I first voted on Wikinews/Vote/Fr and deleted it for voting here. See also: commentaires additionnels
- Guaca Sounds too ambitious and timeconsuming.
- pne 05:41, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Lexor 15:33, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC) For similar reasons as given by mav. Possibility for major diversion/forking.
- Quistnix 22:47, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC) It is better to work on the ongoing projects first, and start new projects later.
- Elian from a yes with a headache I changed to a no. I think that the struggle for NPOV and the desired actuality of wikinews are excluding each other. This project can't reach both.
- --Ausir 22:59, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I propose a motto: Fair & Balanced. No, sorry, for good reporting you need a good command of the relevance of all the facts. You cannot simply add information bit by bit like we do for the pedia, but you need an overview the make the crucial decisions. Bontenbal 08:41, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Rmhermen 15:16, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC) I fear it would syphon off to much of the effort from the encyclopedia.
- Tooto, effort would be better spent improving other projects wikipedia:User:tooto
- Henrygb:A distraction - impossible to keep accurate, NPOV, and up-to-date at the same time. 22:47, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Aphaia 04:04, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) I withdrew my affermative vote; basically I think this project has a noble purpose and I respect it, but from two major reasons I oppose to start it now. First three new projects (or four including Wikiversity) are too many for us in my opinion, Second during this vote my afraid was grown if Wikinews would attract many good will but careless people and they would cause troubles. I would like to have a good enough preperation for avoiding any troubles, specially legal threats.
- Donarreiskoffer 14:43, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC), I think we need first more maturity in other projects.
- --Fanghong 23:45, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)News is difficulty to maintain objectiveness and justice,even professional news agencies are always controlled by their sponsors. In the free Wiki news would cause a lot of quarrels. From above their are already different opinions. News should not avoid the political dispute.
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Reglas de votación:
- La votación comienza el 22 de octubre de 2004, a las 20:00 UTC.
- Para votar, necesitas registrarte previamente en Meta, o firmar con un link a una página de usuario en el wiki en el que participes (ej. [[:Es:Usuario:Fulanito]]).
- La votación conluirá el 12 de noviembre de 2004, a las 20:00 UTC.
- La propuesta necesita una mayoría para ser aprobada.
- Si después de una semana de votación hay más de un 90% de acuerdo total, el proyecto puede crearse inmediatamente.
Sólo puedes votar una vez. ¡Deja tu voto sólo en la página de la lengua de tu preferencia! Lee atentamente la propuesta Wikinews antes de votar.
Puedes resolver tus dudas sobre Wikinews en el canal # wikinews de IRC (irc.freenode.net).
Puedes ver todas las páginas de votación integradas en una sola en Wikinews/Vote/All
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Atención: Estás votando sólo por los cinco requisitos básicos que se describen en esa página, y no por una política específica para implementar esos requerimientos.
Sí
edit- Zuirdj 23:15, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) Estaría dispuesto a colaborar. El trabajo es bastante, pero podría ser un buen complemento para Wikipedia.
- Joserri 05:19, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC) Me parece una idea estupenda para ampliar el proyecto y, mucha gente que acude, puede conocer wikipedia también. Pero, en sí, ya es una buena idea.
- Palmax 17:05, 2 Dic 2004 (UTC) Creo que estaría bien, pero podrían alguien puede manipular la información (vease Iglesia Católica o Opus Dei en wikipedia y me entenderán). Creo que es necesaria para la sociedad utilizar las licencias GPL y FDL pero sabiendo lo que pueden suceder con ellas.
No
edit- AstroNomer 23:30, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Ruiz 23:08, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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Règles de vote :
- Le vote débutera le 22 octobre 2004 à 20:00 UTC.
- Pour voter, vous devez disposer d'un compte utilisateur sur Meta, ou signer avec un lien vers une page de projet sur le wiki sur lequel vous travaillez. Par exemple fr:user:phe
- Le vote sera clos le 12 novembre 2004 à 20:00 UTC.
- La proposition doit être adoptée à la majorité.
- Si après une semaine de vote plus de 90% des votants ont adopté le projet, celui-ci sera lancé immédiatement.
Vous ne pouvez voter qu'une fois - merci donc de placer votre vote dans la page de la langue de votre choix. Merci de lire l'intégralité du projet Wikinews avant de voter. Please read the full Wikinews proposal before voting.
Vous pouvez poser vos questions sur le canal IRC #wikinews (irc.freenode.net).
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Devons-nous lancer le projet Wikinews tel qu'il est décrit sur Wikinews/Fr?
edit- NB. Vous ne votez que sur les cinq fondements tels que décrits sur cette page et pas sur les règles spécifiques à la mise en oeuvre de ces fondements.
- NB bis. Merci de limiter vos commentaires sur cette page et d'utiliser la page de discussion avec un lien vers vos commentaires si vous souhaitez commenter plus avant. Les commentaires les plus longs ont été déplacés sur Talk:Wikinews/Vote/Fr
Oui
edit- Manu 21:22, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) l'accès à l'information est aussi important que l'accès à la connaissance.
- Traroth 13:30, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) C'est une super idée.
- villy 19:32, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Dromygolo 21:00, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) Très bonne idée.
- Drazzib 00:01, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Greudin 15:35, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) Alleluia.
- A☮ineko 06:22, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) (il n'y a aucune raison que ces news soit moins vraies/neutres que celles qu'on trouvent dans les organes officiels)
- Kelson 17:17, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC), risqué... mais tentôns...
Non
edit- Greatpatton 21:36, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) (un exemple sur fr: la page sur les attentats de Madrid qui 6 mois plus tard ne représente pas les faits avérés.....)
- Weft 17:36, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Gentil ♡ 22:04, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Phe 01:06, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) commentaires additionnels
- Lucas thierry commentaires additionnels
- Hervé Tigier 18:12, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC) commentaires additionnels
- Almak voir commentaires additionnels
- Med 07:48, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- [[User:Notafish|notafish }<';>]] 22:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- FoeNyx 22:51, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) Le projet en l'état me semble trop « dangeureux », s'il doit se faire il faudrait mieux qu'il soit indépendant.
- Hemmer 19:17, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) La nécessaire rapidité de réaction me paraît difficilement conciliable avec la neutralité de point de vue qui demande du recul.
- Olrick 21:09, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Bart 11:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Pas sûr
editThe Wikinews vote is now closed. Further edits to this page will be reverted. The demo site that was approved at demo.wikinews.org prior to a formal Board decision being made about the project now redirects to the English Wikinews.
Regole di voto:
- La votazione inizia il 22 ottobre 2004, 20:00 UTC. Puoi ancora tradurre la pagina di votazione e la pagina di proposta in altre lingue.
- Per votare ti occorre essere un utente registrato su Meta, o firma con un collegamento alla pagina utente della wiki su cui lavori (p.e. [[:En:User:Eloquence]]).
- La votazione termina il 12 novembre 2004, 20:00 UTC.
- La proposta ha bisogno di una maggioranza di voti favorevoli per essere sottoposta al vaglio del consiglio d'amministrazione.
- Se, dopo una settimana di votazione, esiste un accordo superiore al 90%, il progetto può essere lanciato immediatamente.
Si può votare una volta sola - per favore metti il tuo voto nella pagina della lingua di tua scelta! Per favore leggi la proposta integrale di Wikinews prima di votare.
Puoi porre domande su Wikinews sul canale IRC #wikinews (irc.freenode.net).
Si veda Wikinews/Vote/All per tutte le pagine di votazione riassunte in una.
26 Ott. aggiornamento: Per favore partecipa al Wikinews/License straw poll (non vincolante).
26 Ott. aggiornamento: C'è stata una sessione di dibattito oggi alle 20:00 UTC, su irc.freenode.net, #wikinews. Il log si trova qui: Wikinews/IRC meeting Oct 27
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Prego notare: stai votando solo per i cinque requisiti base come descritti su quella pagina. a non sulle politiche specifiche richieste per implementare tali requisiti.
Si
editNo
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投票の規則:
- 投票が始まるのは、協定世界時の2004年10月22日20:00(日本標準時の同月23日5:00)です。(投票中であっても提案および関連ページの翻訳を続けることができます。)
- 投票に参加するには、ここメタウィキでの登録アカウント、または、自分が活動するウィキメディア・プロジェクトの利用者ページへのリンクを添えた署名が必要です。例:[[:ja:User:Username]]
- メタウィキのアカウントで署名する場合は、自分が活動するウィキメディア・プロジェクトの利用者ページへのリンクを、メタの利用者ページにおいてください。
- 投票が終わるのは、協定世界時の2004年11月12日20:00(日本標準時の同月13日5:00)です。
- この提案が可決されるためには、過半数の賛成が必要です。
- もし1週間の投票の後、すでに9割を超える絶対多数の同意があった場合、このプロジェクトは直ちに開始できます。
投票は1名につき1回のみ行えます。言語ごとにある投票ページから1つだけを選んで投票してください!
すべての投票ページを一覧するには Wikinews/Vote/All をご覧ください。
10月26日更新(29日翻訳追加): Wikinews/License straw poll(訳注:英語)で開かれているライセンス動向調査(拘束力なし)にご参加ください。
10月27日更新(29日翻訳追加): 27日20:00 UTC(28日5:00 JST)より irc.freenode.net のIRCチャンネル #wikinews にてディスカッションセッションが開かれました。その記録は Wikinews/IRC meeting Oct 27(訳注:英語)にあります。
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
私たちは Wikinews/Ja で述べられた通りにウィキニュース・プロジェクトを開始すべきですか?
editご注意:あなたが投票を行うのは、提案の中で述べられた5つの基本要件に関してだけであり、これらの要件を実現するための何らかの特定の方針に関してではありません。
はい
edit- Mulukhiyya 20:13, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- そばクッキー 21:01, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- matsuura 00:02, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Project 03:07, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- e-Goat 03:13, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC) though, I have no plan to join...
- Trek011 09:14, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sug 11:13, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Mh35 13:01, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)though, I have no plan to join...
- こうのいち 04:22, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sei 14:27, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sat.K 15:45, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Miya 02:43, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC) no plan to join, though
いいえ
edit- Johncapistrano 21:16, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)(ja)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- 何を以てアカウントが無いと? Johncapistrano 07:18, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Supposingly you have no user page of your own here, John. Without user page, here on meta no user contributions link isn't provided us. In fact, Johncapistrano has an account before the vote. cf. Special:Contributions/Johncapistrano --Aphaia 23:23, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Hi Johncapistrano. My phrasing was wrong, sorry, my mistake. You have an account here on meta, but we do not know to which project you are participating, so whether you are a true participant or not. What would be great is that you put a link on your meta user page to your user page on the project where you edit. Same for all users around with a red link for a user page. tHanks you . Anthere 23:39, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I want to insist it is not a lack of trust, but the project was advertised a lot on the net, and we suspect some people are voting in good faith, but are not participants to the project. So, we really wish that people indicate where they edit. Thanks. ant
- Supposingly you have no user page of your own here, John. Without user page, here on meta no user contributions link isn't provided us. In fact, Johncapistrano has an account before the vote. cf. Special:Contributions/Johncapistrano --Aphaia 23:23, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- 何を以てアカウントが無いと? Johncapistrano 07:18, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- makoto 00:59, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- Faso 16:47, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- おはぐろ蜻蛉 11:07, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Tietew 04:02, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Suisui 03:36, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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투표 규칙:
- 투표는 국제 표준시로 2004년 10월 22일 20:00에 시작합니다. (한국 시각으로 23일 5:00)
- 투표를 하기 위해서 여러분은 이곳 메타위키에 있는 계정이나 여러분이 주로 작업하는 위키 안의 사용자 페이지 링크를 명시해야 합니다. (예: [[:Ko:사용자:홍길동]])
- 투표는 국제 표준시로 2004년 11월 12일 20:00시에 끝납니다. (한국 시각으로 13일 5:00)
- 이 제안이 투표에서 과반수를 획득하게 되면 관재인단(Board of Trustees)에게 최종결정이 맡겨지게 됩니다.
- 만약 첫 번째 주에 90%의 찬성률을 획득하게 되면, 이 프로젝트는 곧바로 시작될 것입니다.
당신은 한 번만 투표할 수 있습니다. 그러므로 언어 하나를 선택해서 해당되는 페이지에 투표를 해 주십시오. 투표하기 전에 Wikinews 제안서를 읽어 보십시오.
만약 Wikinews에 대해 질문사항이 있다면 Freenode IRC(irc.freenode.net)의 #wikinews 채널에서 물어 보십시오.
Wikinews/Vote/All 페이지에 모든 투표 페이지의 합이 있습니다.
10월 26일 업데이트: Wikinews/License straw poll(영문) 투표에도 참가해 주십시오. (이 투표에 종속되지는 않습니다.)
10월 27일 업데이트: 세계표준시로 오늘 20:00에 irc.freenode.net #wikinews 에서 토론이 있었습니다. 그 기록은 Wikinews/IRC meeting Oct 27(영문) 페이지에 있습니다.
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Please note: You are only voting on the five basic requirements as described on that page, and not on any specific policy to implement these requirements.
찬성
edit반대
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Regras para a votação:
- A votação começará dia 22 de outubro de 2004, às 20:00 UTC.
- Para votar, é necessário registrar-se previamente no Meta, ou acessar um "link" de uma página de usuário no wiki do qual participa (ex. [[:Pt:Usuario:Fulano]]).
- A votação encerrar-se-á dia 12 de novembro de 2004 às 20:00 UTC.
- A proposta precisa do voto da maioria para ser aprovada.
- Caso depois de uma semana finda a votação houver mais de 90% de votos com a mesma opinião, o projeto será lançado imediatamente.
Só é possível votar uma única vez, por isso coloque o seu voto na página da linguagem de sua preferência! Leia atentamente a proposta Wikinews antes de votar.
Suas dúvidas sobre o Wikinews podem ser resolvidas nos canais de IRC (irc.freenode.net).
27 Out atualização: Houve uma sessão de discussão hoje, 20:00 UTC, em irc.freenode.net, #wikinews. O registro dela esta em Wikinews/IRC meeting Oct 27
Pode-se ver todas as páginas de votação integradas numa única página em Wikinews/Vote/All
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Atenção: O que está em votação são os cinco requisitos básicos descritos nessa página, e não uma política específica para implementar esses requisitos.
Sim
edit- carlosar 17:32, 09 Nov 2004 (UTC) - Estou disposto a colaborar caso seja possível, dentro de minhas limitações
- eugenia 17:55, 11 Nov 2004 - tb estou disposta a colaborar
- will2805 22:32, 17 Nov 2004 - Gostaría muito de contribuir com este novo projeto, estarei a disposição para escrever notícias sobre o Brasil.
Não
editThe Wikinews vote is now closed. Further edits to this page will be reverted. The demo site that was approved at demo.wikinews.org prior to a formal Board decision being made about the project now redirects to the English Wikinews.
Legi de votare:
- Votarea va începe pe 22 octombrie 2004 la 20:00 UTC. Până atunci, vor fi traduse paginile despre Wikinews în mai multe limbi.
- Ca să votezi, trebuie să ai un cont înregistrat aici pe Meta sau să dai o legătură la pagina ta de utilizator pe proiectul Wikimedia (e.g Wikipedia română) unde lucrezi
- Votul va fi închis pe 12 noiembrie, 2004 la 20:00 UTC.
- Propunerea Wikinews trebuie să aibă o majoritate ca să fie implementată
- Dacă, după o săptămână de votare, 90% din utilizatori care au votat aprobă proiectul, va fi lansat imediat
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
--81.12.222.10 15:22, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)=== Da ===
- Ronline 10:37, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Danutz (@ ro.wiki) 21:48, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Zavandi 14:23, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- sp1ri
- Moby Dick (@ ro.wiki) 19:54, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Planck
- sus
- CrisB
- D.Evil
- Cristi
- Emily
PAGINILE ENCICLOPEDIEI AR TREBUI AVIZATE CU ISBN IMEDIAT CE SUNT VERIFICATE DE MODERATORI.TREBUIE ATRASI UNIVERSITARI DE VALOARE RECUNOSCUTA CARE SA AVIZEZE CELE PUBLICATE.
The Wikinews vote is now closed. Further edits to this page will be reverted. The demo site that was approved at demo.wikinews.org prior to a formal Board decision being made about the project now redirects to the English Wikinews.
Luật bỏ phiếu:
1. Cuộc bỏ phiếu bắt đầu vào 22 tháng 10, 2004 , 1:00 AM (giờ Hà Nội).
2. Để bỏ phiếu bạn cần đăng kí một account tại Meta, hoặc kí vào trang trên trang wiki của bạn bằng 1 link (ví dụ [ [:vn:User:Anh Tuấn] ] ).
3. Hạn bầu cử đến 12 tháng 11 ,2004 vào lúc 1:00 AM (giờ Việt Nam)
4. Bản đề nghị cần một số lượng lớn người đăng kí để được thông qua
5. Nếu sau 1 tuần mà có trên 90% người tán thành bản đề nghị này, dự án sẽ được tiến hành ngay
Bạn có thể bầu duy nhất 1 lần vì thế hãy bầu phiếu trên trang được viết bằng ngôn ngử của bạn.
Hãy đọc về Wikinews trước khi bỏ phiếubản kiên nghị.
Bạn có thể đặt câu hỏi về Wikinews tại kênh #wikinews IRC (irc.freenode.net)
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
Chú ý: Bạn chỉ bầu cử dựa trên 5 nguyên tắc ở đã mô tả ở trên trong trang web này, không có bất cứ những nguyên tắc nào khác nữa
Đồng ý
edit- nat Đây là một dự án rất hay , mong nó sẽ được thông qua !
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
- grp tốt
- no user account here on Meta. Please point to the Wikimedia project you are working on. Anthere
Phản đối
edit本次投票已经关闭。等待基金会的批准。
投票和讨论说明:
鉴于有多名维基人在google群组和维基社区的讨论中再次提起设立维基新闻计划,我整理了一下先前在维基各网站上发表的有关中文维基新闻的页面,请在投票和讨论前参阅,投票不预设前提,欢迎各种讨论:
- 中文维基新闻政策/繁体
- 中文维基新闻预览版(已经比较完整)
- 支持设立中文维基新闻的签名
- 2004年10月22日的投票
- 关于检查制度对维基新闻的威胁讨论与投票
- 英文维基百科有人专门制作了支持设立中文维基新闻的模板
- 提议设立中文维基新闻域名
投票规则:
- 投票将在2006年2月25日0:00 UTC(北京、香港、台北时间2月25日8:00时)开始。
- 准备投票者需要在Meta拥有一个登记帐号,或者用您最常工作的wiki计划帐号签名。
- 投票将在2006年3月10日0:00 UTC(北京、香港、台北时间3月10日8:00时)截止。
- 本提议需要超过半数以上的支持才可开设。
- 如果在投票开始1周后有超过90%的支持,则本计划可立即开始。
- 先前投票结果在/20041022
Please note: The vote counts will be aggregated from all languages. A global majority is needed.
我们是否应该根据Wikinews/Zh上的初步规划开设一个新的wiki计划?
edit请注意:您只应根据上述页面上所提到的5个标准考虑并决定是否开设。您不应考虑新计划的具体政策细节。意见请发表到讨论页。
投票发起人:--Vipuser
是 (Yes)
edit- (+)支持,先开起来是关键。--自由主义者 给我留言 03:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Moses 04:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- 阿儒 04:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Farm 04:58, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Mountain 08:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- H.T. Chien 09:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Smilodon 09:37, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- --Vipuser 10:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- (+)支持,這一次我選擇給中文維基新聞一次機會。在這裡投下支持票的朋友,我們都有維護維基新聞持續運作下去且避免成為政治論壇的責任。--Jasonzhuocn...._交流 12:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- 我也支持!(我想大家不必这么忌讳提到政治这个词的。你可以不关心政治,但你始终是生活在政治中的,政治不会不来关心你的)--太平犬 14:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- 阿pp 14:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- (+)支持,Cao YiIridiumcao 16:06, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- (+)支持,Kims6331 05:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- --Ellery 09:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- --Shizhao 11:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- Eloquence 14:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC) (not sure if I'm allowed to vote here)
- Fauzty 17:26, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- --Seasurfer 18:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- ----Ce garcon 19:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC) 中文維基新聞萬歲! 自由主意萬歲! Hurray for Chinese Wikinews!
- --Mrmiscellanious 23:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC). May this wiki be a milestone in the history of the Chinese language.
- (+)支持,DanielZ 00:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Support--KaurJmeb 03:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- -- IlyaHaykinson 06:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Support (If we can have some news agent to provide support, that will be better) -- Tomchiukc 10:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Simon Shek 14:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Essolo 14:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Good luck! --SonicR 15:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- (+)支持。--theodoranian 12:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yann 21:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- (+)支持。--Coolgene 11:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- Derekhe 14:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- Support Wengier 18:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- (+)大家一起為新聞自由努力,反對新聞壟斷!。Woofwoof1515 22:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- paulyan
- (+)支持--Demos 21:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thomas Lau 11:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- It's about time! Let's make sure that no other language is ever denied a wiki again for this horrible reason. Dovi 10:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
- --Deprifry 10:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
- --究极人类 11:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
否 (No)
edit中立 (Neutral)
edit- Support Chinese Wikinews does deserve a chance to succeed; however issues of implementation, including the origin, detailed regulations and handling of news sources, have yet to be settled. IMO fundamental and/or rudimentary regulations of how this distinctive Wikinews can be carried out will be beneficial. (I wonder why the Chinese Wikinews has not been started up. Is it because of lack of effort or other reasons?) Ktsquare 18:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- 針對以下從這裡來的數句。
- <quote>注意这里我们并不指明具体该如何确保准确性和合法性。具体措施要由各个维基新闻项目自行制定。......除非某些来源需要匿名保护。</quote>
- 匿名保护的詳細情形如何?用那些準則衡量需不需要,常識還是其他?我認爲先具体措施(包括匿名保护的詳細情形)制定才開始,或者開始后在一個開始前已決定的時限内制定。制定失敗的話便停止運作。寧願見到一個有水凖而停工的維基新聞而不是沒水準而照常運作的版本。Ktsquare 18:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
评论 (Comments)
edit- 在开设前,建议大家先把各种规则翻译成中文--Shizhao 02:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)