Meta:Requests for translation adminship/BZPN

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BZPN

BZPN (talk • contribs • deleted user contributions • logs • block log • abuse log • CentralAuth • stalktoy) Bureaucrats: user rights management.

Hello. I would like to request translation admin rights on Meta. I would like to help a bit with translations, especially with page marking, for which I need permissions. I know the Translate extension very well, which I use, for example, on Miraheze Meta as a permanent translator ([1]). Here I translate pages without any problems. I have also prepared a sample page marked for translation: User:BZPN/Global ArbCom. I won't destroy anything using Translate, I'll only help :). Thank you for considering this request. Best regards, BZPN (talk) 01:03, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Mind explaining a bit about your plwiki block (which appears to be your home wiki based on number of edits)? --SHB (t • c) 05:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I knew this question would come up. I do not want to discuss this topic here, because it has no impact and is in no way related to technical skills and the operation of the extension, as well as to the translation of pages. This is not a pleasant situation and I do not agree with the block. If you want to learn more about the situation, I described everything in the case to the local ArbCom: pl:Wikipedia:(2/2025) BZPN – Runab, Nux, SkrzydlatyMuflon, SpiderMum. BZPN (talk) 07:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BZPN That link to pl.wiki does not appear to work, and your block history is rather extensive as well. And while a block is not a deal-breaker, some explanation on what's going on is expected, irrespective of whether you agree with it or not. For instance, communication skills do matter for translation admins, as users are likely to ask you to help them mark pages for translation. Leaderboard (talk) 08:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, yeah, that's not what I expect as an appropriate response for handling criticism. Sorry, but I'll also have to Oppose per Leaderboard and EPIC. --SHB (t • c) 08:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking about supporting this request, but then I saw the plwiki block (as was mentioned above) for personal attacks which is what I do not want to see from translation administrators. Also, we never add translation unit markup () to the source text as the system automatically put them anyway. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:17, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To add to my statements above, it appears you have never used the right to mark pages for translation at all (Miraheze Meta translators can mark pages for translation). I am lenient to oppose unless concerns are addressed. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:26, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ToadetteEdit: Translators on Miraheze Meta cannot mark pages. However, I learned it in other places, and that's why I added units to my page (to show that I know how Special:PageTranslation works). As I said above: my marking of the page for translation is probably correct and the plwiki block has no effect on it. I think the main thing that should be assessed here is my ability to use the Translate extension, not my CA ;). After all, I'm here to help the global community and make content easier to access. BZPN (talk) 07:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you not read this which says that a member can mark a page? Blocks on other projects are relevant because this can show off your behavior and attitude not just on the wikis but also here. Otherwise I will give you a Neutral; you can be trusted, but your experience with markup is limited; keep it up, and in like a few months you'll be ready. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ToadetteEdit: I don't quite understand it. That is, translators on Miraheze cannot mark pages, see Special:ListGroupRights. I also don't understand what objections you have to my translation. After all, I marked my page correctly, which proves that I know how to do it. I have performed this before and I know this extension well (see e.g. [2]; also on local mediawiki). As I said - I included units in my sample to prove that I know how this extension works. I don't know what else I can do. As for other projects: I am also active mainly on simplewiki, where I don't remember any serious objections to me. Thank you for your understanding. BZPN (talk) 08:44, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to Oppose this for now - the plwiki blocks and this (although not on Wikimedia, but it is relevant to trust and a wiki farm where they hold translator rights) give me pause. A previous revocation of advanced rights just four months ago for cause, even on a test wiki, does not give a good look here. EPIC (talk) 08:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From the same link: Translation access may be audited but is not currently affected as you seem to have done a fair job there. BZPN (talk) 08:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw. BZPN (talk) 09:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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