Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Belgorod Dialect

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: Not eligible. No ISO 639 code. According to the Language proposal policy, if there is no valid ISO 639 code, you must try to obtain one. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amire80 (talk) 2024-10-03 (UTC)

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	(SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Belgorod Dialect	Language name in English
Language name	Белѓородi Рѣч	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q115632936 - item has currently the following values: English label: Belgorod Dialect native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): dialect / Russian Wikimedia language code (P424): writing system (P282): number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098):	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Вiкiпедiя	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	File:Belgorod Logo Wikipedia.png	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Belgorod	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

The language exists on the border with Ukraine in the Belgorod Region, I can give confirmation. It is spoken by about 3,000 people in the villages.KittenBroEeev (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

This isn't even going to be considered if there is no valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code. (See "Language code" is the "Proposal" box above — "belgorod" is not a valid code.) - dcljr (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Same situation as Dcljr, per LPP, this request is a violation of #2 and #3:
1. The language must ordinarily have a valid ISO 639 1–3 code
2. The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language.

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:02, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does not have code in ISO, that is the problem(but if it necessary, i can try to add it into ISO through the management(admins?) of ISO standart. About originality of language. I can provide some songs in it and texts and you can compare it to russian or ukrainian and find out they are very differentKittenBroEeev (talk) 14:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- For the record, the proposer has been globally locked. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don’t really care if it’s a unique language or not, we don’t need a wiki for something spoken by 3000 people in a few villages that probably also speak Ukrainian/Russian and might not even have Internet. Dronebogus (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This dialect does not have a language code, but the number of speakers in 3000 people does not mean that it can not have a Wikipedia. Stop being so toxic. Władysław Krzywiec (talk) 14:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose--Fenikals (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per the other arguments as seen above. Wheatley2 (talk) 21:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]