Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Braj

submitted	verification	final decision

	Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. *Votes will be ignored* when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy). The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved. Check that the project does not already exist (see list). Obtain an ISO 639 code Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki. Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language. This proposal is on hold**: The language is valid, but marking it as waiting because there are two issues: One is that the request creator doesn't actually plan to write in this language any time soon, and the other is that it's unclear how different this language is from Hindi. When there is proof that the language is unique, as the Language proposal policy requires, and when there is activity in the Incubator, the language may become eligible. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amire80 (talk) 2024-11-07 (UTC)

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	bra (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Braj	Language name in English
Language name	ब्रज / ब्रजभाषा	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q35243 - item has currently the following values: English label: Braj Bhasha native label (P1705): instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language, dialect group / Western Hindi Wikimedia language code (P424): writing system (P282): Devanagari, Urdu orthography number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 44,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	bra.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	विकिपीडिया	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Mathura	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

Support with 1.56 million speakers, I don't see any reason not to start a wiki project for it. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's two problems here. First, you've created four requests for new projects, and the other three are for Magahi. A user requesting that many projects or for multiple languages isn't helpful; a project needs at least one solid native speaker to make a good start, not someone work on multiple projects. Second, while Braj is certainly a language that can have a Wikipedia, it's a hard project to start. Indian languages don't have the success languages in richer parts of the world have; e.g. Hindi, fourth largest language in the world, has fewer Wikipedia articles than Slovenian or Georgian. It's also a Western Hindi language that frequently gets conflated with Hindi and doesn't seem to be standardized. Unless one of those two conditions change, making a useful Wikipedia is going to be a huge amount of work.--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]