Talk:Programs & Events Dashboard/Archives/2018
New contact for Wikimedia UK
editHi all. As Richard Nevell has, for the next 12 months, moved on to other pastures; I'll now be the contact at Wikimedia UK. His departure came rather quickly, so any help would be appreciated. I need to create this year's program for Swansea University - a follow up of LAA319 - Competition Law using the clone / template button. Do I need authority to do this, as an Admin or Organiser? Or can the instructor from the university also be the Organiser? Or both? Robin Owain (WMUK) (talk) 11:35, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- User:Robin Owain (WMUK): In order to clone a program, you need to be an instructor/facilitator for that program. It's intended to be used by instructors who are teaching the same course they taught previously. In this case, though, the last program looks like it was built from the Wiki Education assignment wizard, which will lead to some problems if cloned... in particular, it won't include the training modules that are probably intended (because it's got references to the Wiki Ed training modules, which are no longer present on P&E Dashboard, instead of the newer non-Wiki Ed versions that are now available). If it's not the same instructor, the best option is probably to start a new program rather than cloning it, and copy over all the parts you want to keep. If it is the same instructor, they can clone it (and add additional instructors if needed), but they'll need to insert the training modules they want afterward.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:20, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Sage. Yes, the instructor and myself are new to the Dashboard. I'll go ahead as suggested but please keep an eye! Thanks again! Robin Owain (WMUK) (talk) 08:55, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Filtering of courses
editThere seem to be only sorting options for the list of courses of given program. Is there also a way to filter it?
Example: How to leave only currently active courses?
Programs & Events Dashboard/Using the Dashboard#Navigating the dashboard says: You can browse all active programs from this tab, and use various filters to sort and search through the events. ~ Where are those filters? --11:31, 9 May 2018 (UTC), Utar (talk)
- @Utar: The reference to filters was wrong. You can sort the list of courses, but you cannot currently filter it. Being able to filter for active courses is a good idea; I've added an issue for it.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Campaigns and programs
editAt the moment, you can get the full statistics for programs but not for an overall campaign, so you have to download all the individual program statistics, filter out any duplicates (as a user could be captured by multiple programs within a campaign), and then get your grand totals. Can this be automated please? Thanks Kerry Raymond (talk) 05:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Kerry Raymond: which statistics do you mainly intersted in? From the /campaigns page, you can download the (poorly named) "course data" CSV for a campaign, and it will have the main stats for each of the programs in that campaign. Filtering out users who have the same contributions counted in multiple programs is going to be tough, though, because different programs may have different settings for which edits count and which ones don't.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- To give a precise example, if I look at this program, I can see the Action "Download stats" from which I can choose various stats but my favourite tends to "Edits Data" (as that seems to be the most comprehensive for a variety of analyses). Now it is part of this campaign but I cannot see how to get the same "Edits Data" for the campaign as a whole, but it does appear I can go to any of the programs in it and get that "Edits Data". I just want to get that "Edits Data" in one big CSV instead of tediously getting it separately for 20 programs. While it might be an issue for some campaigns, I don't think different settings would be an issue for this campaign as it's not category-limited. Basically I would like to be able to get at the campaign level, the same stats choices as I can at the program level, just aggregated across all of its programs. Dealing with duplicates or any kinds of different settings can be left for me to sort out. Kerry Raymond (talk) 07:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Kerry Raymond: I've added an issue for this. It's a good idea. We'll add something like this at some point.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
- To give a precise example, if I look at this program, I can see the Action "Download stats" from which I can choose various stats but my favourite tends to "Edits Data" (as that seems to be the most comprehensive for a variety of analyses). Now it is part of this campaign but I cannot see how to get the same "Edits Data" for the campaign as a whole, but it does appear I can go to any of the programs in it and get that "Edits Data". I just want to get that "Edits Data" in one big CSV instead of tediously getting it separately for 20 programs. While it might be an issue for some campaigns, I don't think different settings would be an issue for this campaign as it's not category-limited. Basically I would like to be able to get at the campaign level, the same stats choices as I can at the program level, just aggregated across all of its programs. Dealing with duplicates or any kinds of different settings can be left for me to sort out. Kerry Raymond (talk) 07:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Request for feedback from media contributors
editHello Wikimedians! As a part of my Outreachy project, I will be working on improving the support for photo/media contribution campaigns on Wikimedia Programs & Events Dashboard. We are looking for media contributors as well as people who organise media campaigns and will be willing to share their input about their experiences with the dashboard. Those of you who work most closely with the dashboard would be best qualified to help us understand how we can identify and prioritize additional improvements. Requested people who would like to be contacted for the same can leave a reply down here. Thank you for your help! --Urvaxhi (talk) 17:33, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Interest list
editPrivacy policy for the Dashboard
editHi all! Is the Dashboard a "Wikimedia site" subject to the WMF Privacy policy? Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) (talk) 09:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sara Mörtsell (WMSE): No. The Wikimedia Foundation only applies that policy to their own tools and not to "third-party developer projects on Wikimedia Labs".
- At the same time, the functions of the Dashboard aligns with the intent of that privacy policy in every way that I can imagine. Do you have a question about any aspect of it? Blue Rasberry (talk) 10:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bluerasberry: Thanks, I expected that. In order to comply with w:GDPR, I want to disclose the privacy policies of all services we use as an affiliate. I wonder if this statement applies to the Dashboard:
- If my tools collect Private Information...
- If you collect any Private Information from End Users, you must display this disclaimer to the End Users before you collect the Private Information:
By using this project, you agree that any private information you give to this project may be made publicly available and not be treated as confidential.
By using this project, you agree that the volunteer administrators of this project will have access to any data you submit. This can include your IP address, your username/password combination for accounts created in Cloud Services services, and any other information that you send. The volunteer administrators of this project are bound by the Wikimedia Cloud Services Terms of Use, and are not allowed to share this information or use it in any non-approved way.
Since access to this information is fundamental to the operation of Wikimedia Cloud Services, these terms regarding use of your data expressly override the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy as it relates to the use and access of your personal information.
- Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) and Sage (Wiki Ed): I can only speak as a community user of this project.
- So far as I know, there are no "volunteer administrators" who have access to any private information. Only paid staff of the Wiki Education Foundation might have access to IP addresses of users who visit this web address, but that would only be if Wikimedia Labs gives IP addresses to people who operate tools. I do not know if that happens. Usernames and addresses are WMF held and not part of Wiki Ed.
- If there is other private information in play here then it is not obvious to me. Something else strange about this is that Wiki Education - perhaps because of some funding restriction - has made tools specifically to target the United States and Canada and in past years has been assertive about this. I am not sure what that means for the GDPR. Wow, this is interesting, thanks for bringing it up. At this point I think the Wiki Education Foundation can speak. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) and Bluerasberry. IP addresses and other private information, for the most part, are not stored by Programs & Events Dashboard directly. It's technically possible to add some non-default private information, however (namely, email address and real name), and if you do add that info it will be accessible to both volunteer admins of the dashboard, and (I think) some volunteer sysadmins of Wikimedia Cloud Services (who could access it directly from the server). The WMF programs team is going to take on formal responsibility for the volunteer admin role soon, and will likely require signing nondisclosure agreements for admins.
- We've never made it explicit, but I've always considered P&E Dashboard subject to wmflabs policies. Maybe it will make sense to add a link to that Cloud Services terms of use in a footer. The Wiki Education Dashboard already uses a footer which points to our own privacy policy.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:24, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you both for chiming in on this issue. The WikiEd Dashboard footer with link to the privacy policy looks very much like something we're currently missing for the P&E Dashboard, and as the GDPR has raised awareness of privacy over here in Europe (good thing) I do think a privacy policy needs to be better connected to the tool, if we want to be able to use it in the future. Then there is more work to be done for it to comply with GDPR, but at least it would be a crucial first step. Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sara Mörtsell (WMSE): Does Wikimedia Sweden or the Wikimedia community have recommended text for compliance? Is the WMF statement the best? Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:14, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sara Mörtsell (WMSE): I've updated the footer to link to the Wikimedia Cloud Services terms of use. I haven't studied GDPR requirements, but if you document the necessary changes (either here or on Phabricator), I can look into implementing them.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you both for chiming in on this issue. The WikiEd Dashboard footer with link to the privacy policy looks very much like something we're currently missing for the P&E Dashboard, and as the GDPR has raised awareness of privacy over here in Europe (good thing) I do think a privacy policy needs to be better connected to the tool, if we want to be able to use it in the future. Then there is more work to be done for it to comply with GDPR, but at least it would be a crucial first step. Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sara Mörtsell (WMSE) (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
My review of the dashboard
editHere are my thoughts after having used the tool (https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/) for ~1 year in five courses:
- the split into outreach one (linked above) and regular one (https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/) seems pointless and only confuses some people
- there's little to no integration between this and Wikipedia. In the old system, while not easy to find, students and instructors where marked as such on English Wikipedia as such, through some form of user rights. Now it is impossible to know (AFAIK) if someone is involved with an education program. There're should be automated welcome messages for students/instructors and obligatory userboxes (yes, obligatory, because it would mean admins/etc. can find out the user they are about to block/bite is a student...). Student userboxes should link to the instructor talk page for ease of notification. As an instructor, every know and then I find out my student is in trouble, and nobody knows they are a) a student and b) my student.
- Similarly, there's no automatic way to mark articles that are subjects to educational assignments (at best, we can tag them with the old en:Template:Course assignment, but this template is not even mentioned on the dashboard pages, so most instructors probably don't even know they can use it).
I will now review individual components, starting with the general feature page.
- the Find Program / Program list page (ex. [1]) does not allow sorting of projects by instructor or institution. In fact, there's no institution page at all. In the old system we had (a bit hidden) info page like this per institution: en:Education_Program:Hanyang_University, plus a list of institutions involved at en:Special:Institutions. AFAIK the new system does not have such a feature (institution is listed on individual course page, but there's no clickable aggregate page)
- the My Dashboard page ([2]) has links to joining, creating of finding a program, plus a list of one's current and past programs. The link t find a program is simply a duplicate of the still present link to the list discussed in the previous bullets. This page should probably be integrated with the instructor page.
- the other three top links are for training, documentation and report an issue link to meta:Talk:Programs_&_Events_Dashboard#Privacy_policy_for_the_Dashboard. They seem clear and functional.
- The instructor page (ex. mine) is not bad, but:
- it defaults to English Wikipedia (contribution link). It does not allow to specify a different Wikipedia if an instructor is primarily active on a different project. This link should probably default to one's global contributions.
- image link does not integrates with Commons, requires a file upload, and does not have any centering options, so if you want to have your face there (as an instructor, seems reasonable) you need a photo with your face in the center
- there are unclickable links. "Commons Uploads" should link to an aggregate of individual course uploads (ex. [3]). Articles created, edited and views should provide sortable lists of articles. Currently this page does not allow one to answer questions such as "what articles of one's students are most viewed, highest quality, etc.", nor does it give lists of articles edited/created.
- as an instructor, I'd like to know more about my students. Ex.
- which of students in my courses where most active? Which are still editing? Which students have taken the most of my courses? Or courses total (while unlikely, it is possible for students to take wiki courses run by different instructors)
Now, a review of a course page
- starting with the course home page (ex. [4])
- Just like on the instructor's page, there's a total list of article's created, but there's no list of said articles to be found anywhere. I am currently maintaing a manual list at en:User:Piotrus/Educational project results, which is likely incomplete, but it's better than nothing. Dashboard failure to provide me with a list of articles created by my classes is quite annoying, and in fact it is the reason that made me write a bigger review (might as well tackle other stuff, right?)
- the description page of the old courses, utilizing a wiki page formatting, allowed for a nicer description page designed (compare en:Education_Program:Hanyang_University/Collective_Intelligence_in_Practice:_Understanding_Wikipedia_(2017) vs [5]). My solution was, as can be seen, to create a course page on En Wiki that are linked from the dashboard.
- What is the 'Expected Editors' definition in the infobox?
- List of editors:
- No support for classes working in multiple languages - editor pages, sandboxes default to English only. My students work in 2+ languages (and it's not that unusual, many classes get exchange students, etc.). I'd like to be able to specify in course setting the default language, the second language for sandbox links (so in addition to ex. English Sandboxes, there would be a link to the other language sandboxes), and an option to override this for some students with a different language. If this is not clear, here's how my class looks: 95% of students edit in English and Korean, but occasionally I get foreign students who don't speak Korean, and then they edit Chinese/French/etc. wiki, so for them I'd like to be able to manually change that link to their language.
- Assigned articles field becomes useless with 2+ articles, instead of the article name it becomes ... (three dots) and requires clicking. I have to maintain a different list of articles my students edit in google doc for the ease of view, which is annoying (most of my students edit 2+ articles).
- Students should be able to list articles they think they have made significant contributions too. My students can get extra credit from making edits to other articles, but there's no easy way for me to tell which are their significant projects, and which are their minor edits, I have to manually look at their contribs. I want to be able to tell them 'list your best edits for my extra credit review here' in the column that could be called 'student special projects' or such
- All the stats for this page are limited to a single (English) wiki. Editors active on other wikis don't seem to have their edit counts and such displayed.
- The list of editors is non-sortable.
- I want a column with the students real name. This should be private by default (visible only to instructor students). Currently I have to mainain a separate list, where I have student real names and their wiki account names. (Newsflash: when I am grading, I need to know who user:FunnyBalloon really is...).
- Missing columns (aka stuff I want to know): real name, total edits, recent and total edits on talk namespaces with a link to see them (I want to know if they students talk to someone else and to whom, usually this is related to them having problems and I need to know if they are engaged in discussions), number of recent and total edits to their user talk page so I similarly know someone is talking to them, edits per week/month in class, a small activity graph showing me their edits during the course duration (so I can tell students who are slacking off to start editing), a column I can see that a student was blocked with a nice big red warning for me to notice, and perhaps that they received a warning on their talk page, another one to indicate each time their edits where undone/rolled back with an easy list. And last but not least, a link to a working edit counter for their username (like [6]).
- Too many columns? Give the editor an option to customize what columns they want to see, doh.
- Article list
- Too chaotic right now to be useful. It includes all articles edited by students, even if they made a single edit. No filters means that the assigned articles are effectively hidden. In theory, I can use this to find the student project article with most views - but I have to manually scroll down dozens of articles to find the first class project. Cumbersome.
- Filters needed: 'assigned articles', 'created articles', and 'student special projects'
- for some reason, wikidata pages are incorrectly included (ex. [7] was never edited by my students, AFAIK). Of course, non-English Wikipedia artcles are absent again.
- no ToC to skip to the list of assigned articles at the bottom requires cumbersome scrolling down or otherwise using keyboard shortcuts
- available articles is a nice feature, but it is currently limited to a single course page. I'd like to have an instructor-wide list of available articles I could implement for a class. What I mean is that I'd like to be able to create a list of available articles from my instructor page and assigned them to a group (category, whatever), ex. entitled 'collective intelligence', or 'everyday life', and so on. Then when I create a 2019 CI course, I should be able to load all the articles from the CI list, and for the 2019 EL course, all the article from the EL list, etc. Right now the AA list is a nice idea, but too troublesome to use (I could create a list of 100+ articles once, but don't expect me to readd it each semester...).
- The find articles is a nice tool, through a bit random in the results it returns. This should integrate with WikiProjects list of missing articles, probably by having a separate field returning results from en:Category:Wikipedia requested articles, for example
- Image upload list
- Nice, but this time someone tried to be too cute and we get a tumblr feed. Sigh. It can be retained as an option, but I also want a commons-like view like [8]. Because students have major trouble with copyright and such, I would like the student uploads to clearly display copyright status and source fields. Despite my explanations/warnings/activities, my students still upload copyvios - and I sometimes learn about it weeks, months or even years later. The new tool is great for helping me see what they do on Commons, but I need more then a tumblr feed, please. (For deleted images, a link to the deletion log/summary/discussion would be very useful).
- Activity.
- This is the only place I see my students non-English edits...
- Too chaotic to be useful right now. I want to be able to collapse it by student and article. I.e. I wanted to use it in class to show students what they're up to - but all we sometimes see is the last 20-30 edits of the last 2-3 people active before the class started. The list may be useful on occasion, but I want to be able to show them activity by student. Ex. a 'last week activity', where I would show them activity by student, with one line summarizing student edits: ex. John did 27 edits, including creating 1 article and uploading 3 images, Mary did.... etc. This should be expandable. This is partially available on the list of editors, but that doesn't include edits from non-English Wikipedia.
- This is where that tumblr image list would be nice - to show a tumblr like list of recently uploaded images
- Stuff I'd like to show to my students/see myself: articles most actively edited by students by number of edits/word count, most active students from the last week, students who did no edits in the last week
Ok, that's enough for now. I'd be happy to review any beta stuff you may have, and provide feedback in the future. --Piotrus (talk) 09:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
editPiotrus: Thanks so much! This kind of feedback is really useful. I'll be writing up issues for the backlog for much of this. I'll follow up on some specifics later.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Connecting outreachdashboard.wmflfabs.org and en.wikipedia.org
The kinds of automated templates you're asking for are possible, if we enable edits for en.wiki (like we have for dashboard.wikiedu.org). This was proposed previously, but didn't come to a clear conclusion. I can enable editing if someone restarts that discussion and it closes with consensus to do so.
- User profile pages
A bunch of good suggestions. These profile pages are pretty low priority, but I've filed issues for the ones that have clear possible solutions. No promises, but we might add a way to view all of the user's uploads from across multiple courses within the next few months, depending on how far we get with other image-related features for Urvashi Verma's Outreachy internship.
- Course page
- Expected editors
This is a field that instructors fill out when they create a course on Wiki Education Dashboard (so that we know how many students to expect, before they start enrolling). I filed a bug to hide it for courses where it's not relevant.
- List of articles edited and created
The Articles tab has a full list of articles edited, and any that are newly created will say "(new)" after the title. We want to do some significant redesign to improve the usability of that tab, though, because it's got way too much going on right now between 'Articles Edited', 'Assigned Articles', and 'Available Articles'. Being able to filter it to just show new articles would also be a nice thing to add. I think we'll add a short-term fix of adding a ToC within the next month or two, but I'm not sure what the right design solution will be ultimately.
You can get more detailed data from the Home tab with the Download stats option. In particular, you can get a CSV of the articles edited, which includes a column to indicate which ones are new.
If you want to include articles from multiple wikis, you can do that by adding at least one assignment for a page on each wiki that you want to track. (This is a workaround; eventually, we'll let you specifiy all the wikis you want to track at the time you create the course).
- Editor stats
These are combined stats for all the wikis that are being tracked, so if you add an assignment for the relevant wiki, it should reflect the sum across multiple wikis.
- Real names
The basic framework for this is in place, and we show real names to the instructor if they are available. We just don't collect real names on P&E Dashboard because for most types of programs, that's not wanted. Eventually, I expect we'll add a way for users to optionally specify the "real" name they want to use for P&E Dashboard course, as well as for instructors to add in real names for students.
- More per-editor details
This is definitely a big design shortcoming with the current user list. I think the kind of design I want to create to solve this is a sort of 'grading' mode, where you can cycle through each of the users and see a full screen of details for each one: trainings completed, list of edits, list of articles assigned and edited, uploads, per-namespace stats, links to the cumulative diff for each article. The current 'student drawer' user interface is not very satisfying, and is doesn't really accomodate the workflow of diving into the details of each user systematically, one by one.
- Sorting editors
The list of editors is sortable (by name, recent edits, characters added, or uploads), it's just that the UI doesn't make this very clear. One of the interns might be fixing that problem soon.
- Wikidata
Currently, we track Wikidata edits by default for all courses on P&E Dashboard. That will be optional once we fix the 'which wikis to track' issue in a clearer way.
- Find Articles tool and Available Articles
I'm glad you like it! Pratyush Singhal is actively working on that for Google Summer of Code, and we've been doing some user testing this week. I think you'll find it feels less 'random' in the most recent iteration. Integration with WikiProject missing lists is hard to do well, just because it's not very standard (even on en.wiki, much less across languages). But later on, we might be able to integrate it with another independent tool that's being built right now for creating and managing "worklists".
Having some kind of long-term, subject specific lists of missing articles, and high-impact low-quality articles, is definitely a feature I'd like to add eventually... ideally in a way that can build on top of on-wiki workflows for curating such lists. That's a bigger problem than I can tackle any time soon, though.
- Uploads
Improving the uploads tab is the main focus of Urvashi's internship project, and you'll probably appreciate the recent changes that are already live: you can change to a 'list' view that shows non-visual details, if you don't want the Flickr/Tumblr-style gallery view. You should sign up on the interest list above and talk with Urvashi about managing student uplopads (and I'll point her to your comments here).
- Activity
This is good food for thought. For the most-edited articles (but not within the last week), the Articles tab is sorted by default according to bytes added. But I think adding more filtering options to the Activity feed is a very sensible direction to go as well.
Thanks again, Piotrus! Please don't hesitate to post further ideas, thoughts, and complaints whenever they occur to you! --Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Sage (Wiki Ed): I am glad you found it useful. I am not sure how to get in touch with the dashboard team other then here, but I'd be happy to review any new tools/ideas and help with brainstorming, coming from the 'instructor' end (and one that has a ~decade of experience with SUP wiki, as you know). --Piotrus (talk) 03:27, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Password not accessing dashboard
editOur password doesn't open the dashboard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CatonMA2 (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- User:CatonMA2: Are you still having a problem with this? If so, please provide additional details and I'll try to help you sort it out.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Help: does not seem to be respecting end time
editHello, would anyone be able to help me? My program ended on July 10, 2018. However, when I go to activity I still see it recording activity two days later. What can I do to stop it?
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Boston_University_Libraries/Summer_18_Edit-a-thon_at_BU_(2018-07-10)/activity
Thank you.
FuniHistory (talk) 14:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- FuniHistory The Activity tab includes edits that happened after the end date, so that it's easy to see which users are still active after the end of the program. However, the rest of the stats will only reflect activity until end date.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
suggestion: automatically include facilitator(s) in list of editors
editWe just setup an event via the dashboard, and realized after some time that the facilitator was not listed in the editors. Just a suggestion! = Paul2520 (talk) 16:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- In many cases, the person organizing an event is an active editor and most of their edits are not related to the event. That's why the facilitator is not listed as an editor by default. However, you can add a facilitator as an editor as well, if you want to track their edits too.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Spelling Error
edithttps://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/training/editathons
The word preparation is misspelled in the last section of this page. CleverTitania (talk) 23:05, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- USer:CleverTitania: thanks, good catch! User:Astinson (WMF), can you make the spelling fix here? You're the only one who can edit that page.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:28, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- @CleverTitania: Thank you for catching that! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 17:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
unable to create program
editReceiving the "Invalid language/project" error whenever I try to create a program. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lorcanonuaman (talk) 07:34, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- User:Lorcanonuaman: what did you have entered for the language and project, on the program creation form? Leaving both blank should default to en.wikipedia, and otherwise you need to use the two- or three-letter language code in the language field (eg, 'es') and the full project name (eg, 'wikipedia' or 'wiktionary').--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:24, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Done (تم) button
editHi. When pressing تم (Done) button here, the page reloads rather than redirecting you to the home page. Kind Regards----مصعب (talk) 21:35, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- @مصعب: I'm not seeing that bug with my language set to either English or Arabic. Can you check again and confirm that it's still happening? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9 (WMF): now it is resolved in my language. Thanks--مصعب (talk) 14:51, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Showing no articles in Odia wikipedia editathon
editHi Team, There are around 8 articles, however it's not showing here. https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Odia_Wikipedians/WWWW_odia/home — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soumendrak (talk) 11:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Soumendrak: It looks like there are more than 8 articles showing now. Are there any still missing? If so, could you list them? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:39, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's there but updating a bit late. Thank you -Soumendrak (talk) 13:07, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Can't access a program that i can see in the campaign
editI can see the campaign https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/campaigns/universidad_n%C3%BAr__asignatura_paradigmas_de_desarrollo_socioecon%C3%B3mico_2018_ii/programs
Programs "grupo D" and "grupo C" work as expected. "grupo E" however doesn't open for me. https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Universidad_N%C3%BAr/Asignatura_Paradigmas_de_Desarrollo_Socioecon%C3%B3mico_2018_II_-_Grupo_E should be the direct link to it and doesn't open for me either. --VMasrour (WMF) (talk) 05:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Sage (Wiki Ed): Any idea why this might be? I see the campaign listed but can confirm that the link doesn't appear to work. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9 (WMF):: That's a private program, so it's only viewable by users who are listed as facilitators for it. If it should be public, then the facilitator can change it to that setting. I'll add an issue to prevent such programs from being listed in the campaign at all.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Password not accessing dashboard
editSeveral participants are getting a message that the password is incorrect. I've given out the password on the dashboard; is there another way for folks to log in? Thanks for any help you can provide. Vanderbilt Open Access Week 2018 CatonMA2 (talk) 15:25, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @CatonMA2: Apologies that I couldn't help you at the time. The issue was that the program hadn't yet been added to a campaign by an admin, which publishes it and allows users to sign up. I've done that now, though I appreciate the event may now have passed. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:46, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9: Thanks very much. So do dashboards need more affiliation than "Miscellaneous"? CatonMA2 (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- @CatonMA2: Only if you're looking to track this program as part of a broader campaign. Otherwise it can simply live in Miscellaneous :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9: Thanks, that's fine. CatonMA2 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Recording activities from Page or Index namespace with Wikisource
editWe have tried to use the Dashboard for a Wikisource editathon but the tool does not record modification in Page: or Index: namespaces. Is there an easy way to add this feature ?
Assassas77 (talk) 21:28, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Sage (Wiki Ed): Is this a known issue? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- I've just added an issue for this. Thanks!--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Event showing as not found
editHi, A colleague has created an event on the Dashboard, which he can get to but no one else can. He has added me as a facilitator, which has not changed the situation, even though it is on my own dashboard now. The title is NHLKS Training Day under the institution Health Service Executive. The course creator is Ngdomara. Thanks! Smirkybec (talk) 20:33, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Smirkybec: It looks like that program is currently set to Private. If Ngdomara changes it to public, you should be able to see it. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:01, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9 (WMF): Thanks! I thought it was probably something very simple :) Smirkybec (talk) 12:16, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Cloning a course excludes non-ASCII characters
edit- Reporting a bug in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/
- When a course is cloned (course_creator → clone an existing project) and then should be edited, it is impossible to edit or save ANY part of the text if any non-English characters are added. Those that were there earlier are fine and accepted.
- Since the courses are for official communication and promotion of Wikipedia in given language and Czech language has no transliteration rule for typical characters (šěčřžýáíéóťňďůú etc.) it is impossible to use the clone feature. This will definitely affect other non-English language users.
- The only way how to circumvent this is to create a new course and then to copy all the necessary data.
- Tested on Chrome version 69.0.3497.100 on Ubuntu 18.04/Linux Aktron (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Aktron: That must be quite frustrating - thanks for the report! I've filed a Github Issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've just deployed a fix for this; the cloning form now uses the same validation rules as new courses.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:55, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
I am having trouble adding content
editI can't seem to find out how to create the program with adding content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PatO1953 (talk) 19:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- @PatO1953: Apologies for the delay in getting a response here. You can find guidance on creating a program at Programs & Events Dashboard/Using the Dashboard. If you have any more specific questions, please feel free to write them here. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Language problem
editHI, I am the novice here. I was adviced by first man of wikipedia in Serbia to use dashboard for evaluation in a classroom. Whwn I start to make new program, it throughs me :There was an error: Invalid language/project I put Serbian, Srpski, English and each time is same result. What is a problem? All the best from Goran.
- @Бојанић Горан: The Home Language field should be 'sr' and Home Project should be 'wikipedia', if you want to use the Serbian Wikipedia. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Cannot delete
editI am not able to delete an independent program, get an error, "all campaigns have been deleted first". Ganeshk (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/500_Women_Scientists/Atlanta_Women_Scientist_Editathon
- @Ganeshk: You can't delete a course until all campaigns have been removed from it first (this one was part of the Miscellanea campaign). I've removed that campaign so you should be able to delete the course now. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Uploads
editI have recently created this program which is limited to Category:New South Wales State Heritage Register and that seems to be working fine. But I was a little staggered about the number of uploads (a lot more than I would have expected). Then I look at the uploads associated with me (a relatively minor player in the program) and it become obvious that these are all of my uploads not just uploads into either Commons category:New South Wales State Heritage Register nor uploaded images added to articles in that category. I think the upload count should probably be restricted to either a nominated Commons category and/or files uploaded and added to the Wikipedia article category, otherwise those of us who are active outside of a program will be getting our uploads doubly, triply, multiply counted across many programs. Previously I have left myself out of programs where I was a participant because they were not restricted to a category (and hence all of my edits would have been wrongly attributed to them) but I thought I would be safe with this one because it was category-limited but I see that is only half true (working fine with the articles) but not with the uploads. Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- That's a great suggestion that, as far as I know, isn't currently supported. I've filed an Issue on Github. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- This makes a lot of sense, so I second this proposal by Kerry Raymond. Thanks. --Joalpe (talk) 12:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
An option to hide Wikidata
editHello,
During a training for Wiktionary, some expert was also doing some edit on Wikidata, and it could be a lot of edit, parasiting the list of edits made during the training. Those contribution are made during the session but are not related to the current project and should be hidden if needed. Could it be possible to add an option to not register contributions made in Wikidata during a session? I think it can be elected before the session. -- Noé (talk) 09:19, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think this would be quite useful, along with the ability to restrict tracked edits to particular projects. Filed an issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:35, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the issues, I am not familiar with GitHub nor with the development plan for this tool. Great! Noé (talk) 11:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
View full contribution history
editHello again,
In Editors page, when I click on someone's name, the last line is "View full contribution history on Wikipedia", but the session could be focused on another project, such as Wiktionary. The link is then correct but the wording should be corrected for a more general statement like "View full contribution history". -- Noé (talk) 09:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Good suggestion! I've filed an issue for this. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Wiktionary content namespaces
editHello again,
Three in a row. So, in Wiktionary, Main is not the only namespace with content. In French Wiktionary, ns:100 is for Annexe and ns:106 is for Thésaurus. In English Wiktionary, ns:110 is Thesaurus. Those should be taken into account by the Dashboard. We organized a session with a thesaurus as a central point and we were sad to discover this page was not included in the dashboard. We added it manually but it would be better if this could be included in the standard configuration. -- Noé (talk) 09:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Error when assigning new articles
editI get the error "There was an error: Internal server error" when trying to assign new articles to editors in the program "Lengua española - Lenguas Modernas - 2018-19 (https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Universidad_Complutense_de_Madrid/Lengua_espa%C3%B1ola_-_Lenguas_Modernas_-_2018-19)". The error started appearing a few days ago, and editors are unable to assign articles to themselves as well. What is it causing this? How can I solve it?
- Yikes! This was an encoding bug that was introduced recently, which would affect any program with a non-ASCII character in the URL. I just deployed a fix; you should be able to assign articles again now. Thank you for reporting the problem!--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:42, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- It works now, thanks!--Sanmame (talk) 13:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Incubator languages
editHow can my program I track contributions that are focused on languages that are still based in the Incubator. Gnangarra (talk) 12:37, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Is this possible @Sage (Wiki Ed):? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Gnangarra: This works like any other wiki: to track edits from Incubator, you need to assign at least one page from that wiki (or choose incubator / wikimedia as the home language and project for your program). Here's a program that has Incubator contributions.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Sage (Wiki Ed): thanks that helps, Gnangarra (talk) 23:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Gnangarra: This works like any other wiki: to track edits from Incubator, you need to assign at least one page from that wiki (or choose incubator / wikimedia as the home language and project for your program). Here's a program that has Incubator contributions.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Es ist kein Kurs namens University_of_Vienna/Technology_based_Media_Translation vorhanden.
editI cannot find the course I am registered to although it exists. The following message returns when I click on the name of the course:
Seite nicht gefunden. :-(
Es ist kein Kurs namens University_of_Vienna/Technology_based_Media_Translation vorhanden.
- @AleksTr II: It looks like the course (located at this link) was created by User:AlexTr II, whereas you made this post from User:AleksTr II. Since the course is currently set to Private, you will only be able to see it while logged in to the AlexTr II account. I've added AleksTr II as a facilitator - can you try viewing the course now? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Samwalton9,
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I can now access the page from both accounts. Does it mean that my students will be able to access the page if I send the the link and if they have Wikipedia or Wikimedia account Thanks.
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- @AleksTr II: The course is currently still set to 'private', which means students won't yet be able to see it. If you click Edit Details on the Course page, you can set Private to 'no' when you're ready to make it available to other users. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Article view data
editIs it possible to annotate the article view data with the start date from when those views commenced being counted? This is an issue where the dashboard is being created after the program has commenced. For example, this is a dashboard I created for our 2017 1Lib1Ref. For some time, it didn't show any article views and I thought, oh well, I guess that just a limitation I have to be live with as it was set up months afterwards. But then I noticed that it had begun to track article views, but I would like to know "from when" as clearly it's not the normal "from the time first edited by a progam participant". Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Custom dashboard
edit<A custom dashboard is shown in a layout similar to the per-user dashboard, but the sections are entirely configured from the URL. Because of this custom dashboards are stateless on the server side. Users or projects can simply trade URLs using an external system like a project wiki, or site administrators can put the links into the site’s.> — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phonepheth1202.house001gov (talk) 09:27, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
How can I divide my students in sub-groups in a Wikis program ?
editI have 198 students attending advanced reading and writing class. How can I group them in small task units so that my weekly reading and writing task will be finished as I expect?— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr.Wang-CAU (talk) 10:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Does not work
editDashboard does not work properly. We created here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II 33 new articles in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home but the dashboard says only 21. It is wrong.--Jalu (talk) 01:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Jalu: Can you provide more details? Which articles are you expecting to see that aren't showing up?--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Sage (Wiki Ed). I already gave you the links with the list of articles. Here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II you see that we have created 33 articles, as I said, and here https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home you can see that the dashboard shows 21 articles created, many articles are missing, so the dashboard does not works well. All the articles have been created during the time of the dashboard, and all editors are in the dashboard. The account is very simple, 33 - 21 = 13. What else or which other detail do you need? Please tell me. Thanks in advance. --Jalu (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose this is because it is set to Article Scoped Program. This feature counts only edits (and article creations and so on) in articles that are (in the Dashboard) assigned to individual participants. Each participant is able to assign articles to themselves, facilitators are able to assign articles to every participant. As I can see, you have 22 articles assigned to individual participants. Out of those 22 articles, 21 were created and one was modified. This is just what the Dashboad says. If you assign more articles to your participants, the Dashboard will include them in its statistics. If you want all edits made by your participants, then it cannot be set as Article Scoped program (I'd suggest to not set any specific course type). As the course ended, if you decide to change the type, then you must press schedule data update button in order to get data updated (automatic updating is disabled for courses that already ended, as number of created articles usually doesn't change after a course ended). Is this more clear to you? Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 05:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
Drafts are not counted as new articles when published
editHi, I was begi nning tp gather information on a campaign run in 2018 and I noticed that at least here (I did not check for the others) drafts published are not counted as new articles which is problemetic ti know how many new articles have been published. How can I get these figures? Kind regards, Nattes à chat
- @Nattes à chat: Could you link a few articles that should have been counted but weren't? Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
User renaming is not detected
editOn https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Goethe_Institut_Lyon/%C3%89ditathon_Erbst%C3%BCcke/students (where all users were added by myself, not with individual inscription), one user account has been renamed while editing (Ghostrwriteuse → Ghostwriteuse). I had to manually remove the old username and add the new one, after having seen the name didn’t change while other changes (octets count, edit list) had been processed. — Ltrlg (talk),
campaign miscategorized -- how can I move it to Asian Month?
editI made an error with my categorization. It should be WAM (Asian month). How can I move it from Miscellanea to Asian Month? Will this affect getting the event's totals into WAM stats overall?
thanks, CatonMA2 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @CatonMA2: You can change the course category by clicking Edit Details on the program page. However, I'm not seeing any campaigns for Wikimedia Asian Month. Are you sure that campaign has already been created? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation: cannot edit the page
editHi
When I try to edit a page in Wikipedia translation I receive the following message:
'A page with the title XXX exists in the target wiki. Consider giving the page a different title. This is an ongoing translation by USER. Please make sure you coordinate with the user who translated the current translation.'
I can't figure out why is this happening. Interestingly, it does not happen with every page. Can it be that the number of users that can simultaneously translate the same page for the same language pair is somehow restricted? I noticed that a similar question was already asked here but it was never answered. I hope I'll be more lucky.
I'd appreciate any help.
- @AleksTr II: Could you clarify what you're attempting to translate? Also, you can sign your talk page posts with
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:) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)