LR0725

Smagzine

Hi. Thanks for your patrolling work. Just keep in mind that we patrollers are not supposed to revert war with vandals, so in such cases as this one, we should report the socks to stewards/GS/local sysops. Good day, and happy patrolling. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 03:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: I stopped, too. Thanks for reminding me one more time. LR0725 (talk) 03:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Patroller

Hello.

Your account has been granted the patroller userright. This permission will allow you to mark edits and page creations as patrolled, view recent changes patrol marks and also quickly rollback consecutive revisions of an editor on a particular page. For more information on the patroller right, please see Meta:Patrollers. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Happy editing! --M/ (talk) 18:17, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! LR0725 [ Talk | Contribs ] 01:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Global sysops/Requests

As stated in the page guide, GSR is a place that handles simple requests. Perhaps the revdel you posted is not a common case. The most obvious criterion would be whether or not you have any doubts about the request; if not obvious, at least it's not simple. Also, in principle, if there are local admins, you should contact them first. It is very principled to contact the local admin first; this is based on the initial consensus that the GS tool has a complementary role as a global tool. GS cannot overturn the decision of the local admin unless it is clearly wrong, and is expected to respect it.

I've seen you post requests to the GSR on a couple of occasions without contacting the local admins even though they were recently active. I don't doubt your good faith, but I hope you respect these principles.

Global activities may be more unwritten than those carved in stone. So it is not easy and will take a lot of time. But I believe you will do just fine. Thank you for your work. --Sotiale (talk) 15:39, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

I see. LR0725 [ Talk | Contribs ] 15:40, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Your signature

Hey, your signature made a few Problems in SRGP, I also use a pipe in my signature, but please use nowiki-tags to make shure that it‘s not making Problems anymore. Like this: TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 09:08, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@Superpes15 fyi TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 09:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@TenWhile6: Why are you saying that even though I already deleted pipe on my signature? LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 09:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh, my apologizes, I didnt saw TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 09:31, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@TenWhile6: Yep it was already fixed, I already pinged LR0725 in another case, so no problem! Yep I also thought you can try using <nowiki>|</nowiki> (| it's nicer than / imho) :D Superpes15 (talk) 09:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I missed it. Thanks for information. LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 18:31, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Question

LR0725, Hello, Can you help me please say about how to I more increase crosswikiactivity and xwikiactivity on different wikis?. Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aviram7: I used SWViewer for patrolling small wikis. You can try it, too. LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 15:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

LR0725, Thanks for reply but I already use swviewer; I totally made 3,403 edits on swviewer, can you see ; but how to i increase cross and xwiki activities on different wikis? Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:22, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aviram7: Did you set filter on SWViewer to view other wikis? LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 15:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

LR0725, Hello, I already set three filter additional, small and custom and We already work on it.Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aviram7: Then you can just revert evident vandalism edits when you see it. Good luck! LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 15:44, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you but I was start revert on custom, additional and small wiki also, Thanks for your wishes:). Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:54, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

LR0725 Hello, If you have enough time, so can you see my Crosswiki patrolling activities. Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 12:27, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aviram7: What you need is just time, to increase your amount of patrol work, for now. LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 15:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

LR0725 , I need only increase my amt of patrol mark? I cannot understand your means? please help? Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I meant amount of edits, since your cross-wiki edits number is quite low yet. LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 16:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

LR0725, I try to regularly basic to work on various wikis via swviewer and try to increase amt as soon as possible, I not understand only one things is no. of edits (1,100,200,500,1000 each wiki) amt of patrolmark on various wikis. If I'm right.Kind regards~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

why revert of my edit?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=25845142&oldid=25844975&title=Talk:Wikimedia_LGBT%2B/Elections Zblace (talk) 14:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Zblace: Misclick, so I reverted my edit soon after it. Sorry for confusion. --LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 18:09, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Deletions on brwiktionary

Hello and thanks for processing the deletion backlog. There was also a category to delete (misspelled name, empty), could you please take care of it? Thanks. Huñvreüs (talk) 07:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Huñvreüs: Did I miss it? Sorry, done. :) LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 07:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Huñvreüs (talk) 07:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikiquote en español

Hi LR0725:

I am writing to express my concern regarding your deletion of the page es:q:Revalidación de administrador y burócrata/LlamaAl on Spanish Wikiquote. Who asked you to delete it?

This page was created by an administrator in order to carry out a vote, following a request made by a steward on Meta. Deleting such a page—without proper justification or community discussion—may be interpreted as yet another attempt to undermine the autonomy of our project and interfere with legitimate internal governance processes.

At this time, our community is already engaged in a difficult and sensitive discussion with another global sysop due to overreach and actions that are perceived as exceeding their role. In this context, further arbitrary interventions in our project only escalate tensions and risk deepening mistrust toward global functionaries.

I respectfully urge you to consult the relevant information on es:q:Wikiquote:Votaciones and on Steward requests/Permissions#LlamaAl@eswikiquote and to refrain from deleting pages created by Wikiquote in Spanish administrators when those pages serve valid administrative and community functions. Unless there is a clear policy violation or consensus to do so, such actions are not appropriate.

We ask for respect toward our local processes and leadership. Interventions that disregard these processes jeopardize collaborative work and damage the relationship between local communities and global roles.

Collaboration between editors must be based on mutual respect, especially when it comes to actions carried out by the project’s governance bodies. Unilateral actions of this kind weaken community processes and negatively impact the working atmosphere within our community. Sincerely, Jalu (talk) 11:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

@Jaluj again the page was never deleted, it was moved to the correct namespace where it still is [1] -> [2] and only the redirect (which was created automatically during the page move) was deleted. Johannnes89 (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

@Johannnes89 again I did not understand why it had been deleted in the first place. What was the urgency of deleting it? As another user recently said:

Deleting a page created by an administrator through a channel that involves the intervention of global sysops, who are there to act when there are no active local administrators... well, it's going to be controversial at the very least. The GS can also be contacted in an emergency, but deleting a redirect doesn't seem like an emergency; it's not a vandal breaking the project, nor is it a malfunction that prevents you from viewing or editing pages.

I'm a sysop on two projects for many, many years, a bureaucrat on one, and nothing like this has ever happened to me. I was very surprised. According to our policies and templates, any user requesting deletion is expected to notify the author of the page with an explanation. In this case, the page was moved by an user who told me that I should accept his interventions because he is a Global Sysop, requested to deletion by an user who said me that neither me nor anyone from my community can question the actions of a Global Sysop because they are granted the authority to intervene in administrative matters and deleted by another Global Sysop without any kind of notification. Allow me to feel surprised. I only discovered that the page had been removed when I noticed a red link on the voting page. Upon learning more about the situation, I now understand the deletion and I proceeded to delete the page. However, even if my original action could be unintentional error, I log in to the project daily, often several times a day and the way the situation was handled, by immediately involving a Global Sysop instead of a local administrator and without providing any notification to the author of the page, was not in line with the way we usually operate in the project. Local administrators are democratically elected by the Wikiquote in Spanish community through open and legitimate procedure and we should be respected and the pages we create, even if they may have been created by mistake, should not be deleted as if it were vandalism. The least I expect is courteous treatment from my colleagues, especially when there is such a heated atmosphere on Wikiquote in Spanish right now and there is discussion about the interventions of global sysops that are generating unrest. I repeat, my goal is only to open the door to a more transparent and respectful process for future actions and try to avoid this type of friction and discomfort. Best regards, --Jalu (talk) 20:58, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

I think Johannnes explained already. Just a cleanup task.

+ Now my exam is over, and perhaps the mental distress is killing me. Could be impossible to reply further. --LR0725 ( Talk / Contribs ) 09:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

@Jaluj: esta es una breve cronología de las acciones, para aclarar un poco:

• La página se movió del espacio principal al espacio de proyecto acá.
• Posteriormente, se solicitó el borrado de la redirección que quedó en el espacio principal (no la página de votaciones) en esta página en Meta.
• LR0725 procesó esa solicitud de borrado hecha en Meta.

El problema que veo fue que al mover la página, no se cambiaron los enlaces que apuntaban a la página anterior, y luego al solicitar el borrado de la redirección no se te notificó; entiendo que generalmente quien notifica de la solicitud de borrado es la persona que añade la etiqueta de borrado rápido, no la persona que ejecuta el borrado (por lo menos así es en todos los proyectos donde estoy activa, no sé si en Wikiquote se trabajará ese tema de forma distinta). Espero que esto aclare que la participación de LR0725 se limitó únicamente a procesar un borrado en apariencia no controversial. Saludos, –FlyingAce^✈hello 13:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello LR0725, Johannnes89, FlyingAce, Galahad and Jaluj: First of all, I want to apologize to LR0725 for the discomfort you are being put through. This is something you shouldn’t even be involved in, and I sincerely apologize for the trouble caused. Secondly, Jaluj, I honestly don’t understand what you are trying to achieve. I don’t know if you are trying to sabotage yourself or what your goal is. After Johannnes89's reply in LlamaAI's removal request, I went to the Café to clarify that I was the one who requested the deletion of the redirect through Meta. I’ll repeat it here: if I know a global sysop can act faster than a local administrator, I will always seek the faster route, whether it’s vandalism or not. After all, global sysops exist to support wikis where there are few administrators, don’t they? Right now, you are the only active administrator, since one is undergoing removal and the potential new admin is under review for canvassing and vote manipulation. I also remember that at some point you mentioned limiting yourself to deleting no more than two articles per day for health reasons. As a strong supporter of the projects, I wanted to avoid overburdening you and requested a global sysop to delete that redirect. You still refuse to accept that you mishandled the opening of the vote — and I repeat — this is not the first, second, third, or fourth time; it’s the fifth time. And now you are harassing a global sysop. Yes, this is harassment and persecution against a global sysop, and it's extremely disrespectful — even more so coming from someone who claims to value collaboration so much. At no point did Galahad (the global sysop) say he was acting in his global capacity. He is acting as a local user with local rights granted years ago by Cookie, a former local admin. I ask you to assume good faith and civility towards what the user has explained. This is the sixth time it has been clarified that he is acting under local permissions, not as a global admin. Mutual respect is highly valued, but you are not demonstrating it here. Even a steward confirmed that Galahad is acting as a local user. Regarding the message you claim I said: I relied on common sense — something you, as a longtime administrator, should understand, especially given how often you stress it on Wikipedia. You cannot constantly question the actions of a global sysop when there was no disaster involved. Once again: LR0725 only deleted a redirect, not a vote. Between 2023 and 2024, I counted more than 100 interventions by global sysops, and you never complained. Is this now a personal crusade? Because according to the logs, you were active, and they helped by deleting junk, vandalism, spam, and unnecessary redirects. I sincerely don’t understand what you aim to achieve by creating discomfort for the global sysops. We voted for them because we trust they act according to policy. If a mistake occurs, it can be addressed — but here, there was no mistake. Finally, about the deletion notice: the Wikiquote deletion template only recommends notifying; it is not mandatory. Using common sense — and considering your years of experience as an admin — it wasn’t necessary to notify you explicitly. With that, I conclude. Once again, I apologize to LR0725 for the overall discomfort, even if some refuse to acknowledge their own mistakes. —MERULEH 17:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)