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Wikicultura

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Actualmente todavía hay algunos trabajos digitales que no pueden ser publicados en proyectos wikimedia, porque no tienen la guía editorial correcta, como poesía original, canciones, ensayos, tesis, novelas,etc. hayan sido publicados anteriormente o no.

Esta es una propuesta para la creación de un nuevo proyecto hermano en la Fundación Wikimedia.
Wiki social network
Estado de la propuesta
Estadorechazado
Motivono interest in many years. Pecopteris (talk) 05:20, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sería genia si wikipedia lanzase un proyecto para hospedar este tipo de trabajos.

La no investigación original para Wikipedia es comprensible y muy importante, por supuesto. Ahora bien, como se dice en la página anterior, lo que es relevante para una enciclopedia puede no tener lugar en otros proyectos que requieren diferentes pautas editoriales. En los proyectos existentes Wikilibros está muy orientado a trabajos pedagógicos, y Wikisource no aceptará obras que no hayan sido publicados anteriormente en formato de papel.

Por otra parte, alguno podria argumentar que sería una buena forma remover sutílmente trabajos originales de Wikipedia, con un mensaje como "Su contribución contiene reclamos de autor, Wikipedia no es un sitio donde se pueda publicar este tipo de contenido, pero puede compartir su trabajo original en "Wikikultur"". Luego eventualmente, el artículo de Wikipedia podría usar artículos de "Wikikultur" como referencia. Esto podría dar acceso a información de autoría (eventualmente reclamos de IP/anónimos). Y todas las ventajas de un trabajo free/libre en una Wiki. Por ejemplo, podríamos tener estadísticas en artículos, así podríamos verificar si no ha sido utilizado como referencia de un punto de vista sobre representado en un artículo de Wikipedia.

En temas artísticos, esto en verdad ayudaría a impulsar que el movimiento de la cultura free-libre se posicionara en cada lugar donde los artistas puedan experimentar directamente lo que significa compartir y construir juntos, con una audiencia entrelazada con otros proyectos de MediaWiki.

Resumen

Esta es una propuesta para la creación de un nuevo proyecto hermano en la Fundación Wikimedia.
Wikikultur
Ninguna proposición todavía. Las contribuciones son bienvenidas.
Estado de la propuesta
Estadoparalizado (véase aquí para cómo reabrir)
Detalles de la propuesta
Descripción del proyectoCrea y publica trabajos originales como poesías, canciones, ensayos, tesis, novelas... hayan sido estas publicadas con anterioridad, o no.
¿Es multilingüe?Habrá versiones en varios idimas.
Número potencial de idiomasEl proyecto estará en varias lenguas.
Eslogan propuesto"La escena de la cultura libre"
URL propuestaPor determinar
Requisitos técnicos
Necesidad de nuevas característicasEl proyecto no necesariamente necesita de nuevas características que el software MediaWiki actualmente no tenga. Algunas extensiones pueden ser bienvenidas, como Extension:Duplicatorpara crear fácilmente horquillas (por ejemplo, si se desea escribir un final alternativo para una novela). 'Extension:LilyPond podría utilizarse para proporcionar una forma de compartir partituras musicales. Posiblemente, interfaces novedosas se pueden desarrollar (o integrar) para facilitar las contribuciones musicales y gráficas.
Wiki de desarrolloAún no está en la incubadora.
Participantes interesados
See below

Propuesto por

Psychoslave (talk)

Nombres alternativos

wikiculture wikicultur wikikulturo wikikultura wikicultura wikikult wikisevenadur wikimentan wikicultural…

Propuestas y proyectos relacionados

  • wikisource si cumples el requisito de "no ser la primera publicación"
  • wikibooks si te interesa el enfoque pedagógico
  • Wikiessay tiene pequeños enfoques, los cuales podrían incluirse en un poyecto como wikicultura, un ensayo de categoría y un portar podrían ser creados para este proyecto en particular, y otros
  • WikiScores, Wikimusic II, y así sucesivamente, podrían también ser cubiertos en un wikicultura, una vez más con categorías y portales para guiar a las personas
  • Sexta poética un wiki brasileño que publican poemas afiliados a Wikimedia Brasil.
  • WikiCulture - the same unofficial proposal (written unaware of this). May have good points.
  • Ourproject.org

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  1. Psychoslave (talk)
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  3. Raylton P. Sousa (talk) 09:26, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  10. Theopolisme talk! 23:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  12. VIGNERON * discut. 19:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  14. Spring Roll Conan ( Teahouse | Contributions )18:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Halley Pacheco de Oliveira (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  17. ABC 15:22, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
  18. ClementD (talk) 14:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  20. Startracker 23:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  21. --Iste (D) 17:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Solstag (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  25. Lionel Allorge (talk) 19:30, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  27. Micru (talk) 20:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  28. --TheChampionMan1234talken-wiki 02:58, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Jmfayard (talk) 16:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  30. --Blizinsk (talk) 08:33, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  31. --Dixtosa (talk) 22:42, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  32. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  33. --Wikipiki 00:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  34. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 😒🌏🔒) (My global unlock 😄🌏🔓) 11:13, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Preguntas frecuentes

¿El proyecto encaja en alguno de los proyectos ya existentes?
No con las guías actuales. Wikilibros podría ser utilizado si las guías actuales fueras redefinidas sin los requerimientos pedagógicos. Wikisource podría ser utilizado si las guías actuales fueras redefinidas sin los requerimientos de una publicación en papel previa
"¿Habrían efectos secundarios en projectos existentes?"
Sería posible redirigir, de Wikipedia, gente interesada en escribir ensayos gratuitos (colaborativos eventualmente), u otras palabras exponiendo un punto de vista o tesis originales. Por lo tanto, la cultura free/libre no perdería posibles contribuciones, y podría reducir la cantidad de artículos POV contaminados. Por otra parte, Wikipedia podría usar algunos artículos de Wikikultur como referencia, dando a la gente una fuente primaria con muchas ventajas del formato-Wiki
historia, estadísticas, etc. Esto podría ayudar a establecer la notabilidad del tema.
Doesn't Wikipedia, and others Wikimedia projects, have a no novel works guideline ? Isn't an encyclopedia a project which sum up existing knowledge, rather an original works collection ?
It's important and right that Wikipedia continues to keep a guideline which exclude novels works, it's an important principle which tend to make it an improving encyclopedia. However, all projects of the foundation does not exclude novels works, or at least are committed to the necessary acceptance of original works pertinent for their general guidelines. Thus, Wikiversity established a guideline for original researches and Wikinews explains the steps one may follow to contribute on first hand journalism actions. A project like wikikultur have its place among other Wikimedia projects because it would well interconnect with them. A Wikiversity course exposing structuring narratives (or musical if you prefer) woks may end with an invitation to share works wrote after studying the course on Wikikultur, and to add interlinks at the end of the course. And retroactively, the study of produced works could be as used as material for Wiktionary research studies on the impact and effectiveness of the course. The possibilities of publishing essays which can serve as primary source for Wikipedia, and benefits that could be bring, have already been mentioned several times on this page. A page as The no original research policy have would completely fit the guideline of a project like Wikikultur, while its publication on Meta-Wiki is more questionable.
Isn't other collaborative media available which would me more suited for this kind of project, like launching a dedicated wiki, on Wikia for example? Isn't this project out scope of the Wikimedia goals ?
As explained in the previous point, Wikikultur has an ambition of symbiosis with the other Wikimedia projects, an objective which can only be achieved by becoming itself a Wikimedia project. Wikikultur will not only intend to encourage interconnections with other Wikimedia projects, it will participate in strengthening links between other projects. For covering a guideline that is out of scope of other projects, it will fill a gap of potential inter-relationships.
Who are the volunteers who will judge the artistic quality of what is provided? Isn't art the most subjective of all human activities that can not be judged objectively.
First, one could argue first that all judgment is necessarily subjective, but this is a topic that deserves a highly developed essay alone, and that would of course have its place on Wikikultur. More simply, concerns on art works qualities or philosophical works virtues, are decisions that should be left to the discretion of each person who will consult those works. Obviously, anyone can inquire about other contributors opinions through discussion pages. Possibly, if the community perceive the interest, it would be possible to implement systems to allow rapid feedback like it's done on Wikipedia, obviously with questions adapted the original works.
Doesn't this project require too much resources for Wikimedia which has limited space and time and extremely limited financial and volunteers resources, with only small potential benefits?
This project have probably not a disproportionate size relative to other goals set by the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia does not hide and is sparing no efforts to attract new contributors and retain those already involved. Certainly a project like Wikikultur will bring many new contributors, some of which would also extend community of other Wikimedia projects. It would also provide means of expression to all Wikimedians who would like to broaden the scope of their contributions to areas covered by Wikikultur without having to look elsewhere for their happiness, with the risk that they would completely stop to contribute to Wikimedia projects. Such a contributors inheritance dynamic would probably become anecdotic for a project with similar objectives to those of Wikikultur but not affiliated with Wikimedia.
Would Wikikultur articles really be appropriate as references in Wikipedia articles ? Shouldn't references results from sources already checked by professional-level fact checkers?
What's reliable is mainly a matter of who do you trust. What's a "professional-level fact checkers" ? Just because people are labeled "professional", that doesn't make their opinions some absolute true you can blindly trust. Professionals may have economic interest in lie, or bullshit for example. What's important for an encyclopaedia is to inform readers who claims what, and when possible giving references to check further that one person or an other really claimed that. With wikikultur, people will just have easy access to free/libre sources, and with the article history, will be able to see who published it on the wiki, possibly which contributors wrote what exactly, and even easily find other contributions from this users what could give a better background on their thought system. So it would just bring more transparent sources. Wikipedia is already full of web pages references that doesn't offer as much transparency. Anyway, whether this would be a good idea or not to use Wikikultur as Wikipedia references source could be debated along the way, independently from the project launching.

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